Meeting held on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)
Attending: Woody14619, Ivgalvez.
SD69 was unavailable due to work.
NielDK is on holiday.
Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):
Review of hand-over activities (repos, FB page, etc)
Review of bylaws for NFP
Misc, other, etc?
Topic 1 (Review of hand-over activities)
Waiting on X-Fade to grant permissions to selected rep for maintaining repos.
Additional volunteers would be useful for other infrastructure items.
Woody14619 has admin privs now on the Maemo FB fan page, should consider when/how to inform user community there of CSSU and other non-Nokia efforts.
Woody to folow up at OBS meeting Monday.
Topic 2 (Infrastructure discussion)
Waiting on SD69 to update bylaws and post to blog/TMO.
If things aren't moving by late week Woody14619 may take a stab at the updates.
Topic 3 (CSSU and Extras issues)
Currently anything depending on CSSU can't go into Extras (no way to handle dependencies).
If we had an installer pacakage for CSSU, we could depend on it for such apps, and/or promote that installer as a proper method to do the install.
Ivgalvez will look into getting a proper package in place to promote CSSU and cross-apps in Extras for normal promotion.
Action Items:
SD69 to retouch bylaws and post as a blog entry for review by full community
Woody14619 will post bylaws to wiki for markup and review edits
Woody14619 to follow up with IRC topic links and announcements once blog/wiki are up
Woody14619 to follow up with X-Fade on getting admin into role with repos & election setup for next election cycle.
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Council logs for meeting on July 13th, 2012
Meeting held on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)
Attending: Woody14619, Estel_, SD69, Ivgalvez, ZogG, rzr, NielDK, StsKeeps
Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):
- Review and progress with bylaws
- Infrastructure discussion
- AI review, other topics.
Pre meeting (old business):
- Thanks to SD69 and Ivan for the followups to X-Fade and Qgil.
- We should request e-mails to Council go to the group ML (council@maemo.org)
Topic 1 (Review and progress with bylaws)
- The review on the mailing list is going well.
- Items from the mailing list should be folded and and presented as a blog post, to start the discussion on TMO.
- SD69 takes the item to retouch with suggestions and post as a blog item.
- ZogG notes a topic change and announcement on IRC may be in order.
- There is a concern for how final approval of new group should occur.
- General agreement is toward approval of bylaws in concurrent with electing first board, depending on the the variety or nature of branches (if any) after discussion.
- Thoughts on using the Wiki to house working copy of bylaws in discussed.
- Estel takes the item to put bylaws on wiki and monitor edits.
- Tabled until more input is forthcoming from further review (on TMO?)
Topic 2 (Infrastructure discussion)
- A request has been made to X-Fade about which services can be admined by Council or a subcommittee setup for maintenance. The end goal being to lighten the load on X-Fade and allow faster access for the community when problems arise.
Topic 3 (Misc items)
- Zogg proposes using a more robust logging bot in #maemo-meeting, for topics, etc.
Post meeting discussions:
- A general discussion about OBS, QTCreator and Jolla. (separate topics)
- Estel announces (via link post) his resignation from Council
Action Items:
SD69 to retouch bylaws and post as a blog entry for review by full community
Estel (now Woody14619?) will post bylaws to wiki for markup and review edits
Woody14619 to follow up with IRC topic links and announcements once blog/wiki are up
Council minutes for meeting on July 6th, 2012
Meeting held on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)
Attending: Estel, SD69, NielDK, ivgalvez
Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):
As per ivgalvez's suggestion, Woody14619, is proposed as new chairman from now on. All votes unanimously agree.
Topic 2 (Establishing legal entity US/EU)Draft document for establishing a legal entity (not affiliated with Nokia) is discussed. This document, prepared by SD69, will be shared with the community for feedback once it receives a few modifications. Points commented: - Legal entity name to avoid Maemo trademark (possible legal issues). Hildon Foundation will be used as legal entity name. - Discussion around mission statement, boar of legal entity, meetings rate. - It's proposed to use current voting system to elect first board of directors for legal entity.
Topic 3 (Community funding). Will be on held until legal entity launch, to avoid legal issues/taxes.
Topic 4 (X-Fade leaving Maemo related activities) Considering the lack of availability of X-Fade during upcoming months and the importance of his remaining time in activities such as COBS, Council will ask for as much administrator rights as possible, to start the creation of working groups that would help him (or even substitute him if possible) in current maintenance of Maemo related services. Having those working groups would also help to ease the migration to the new infrastructure. Topic 5 (Other issues) Current shipping of CA devices seems to be ongoing, despite some problems. According to qgil, this shouldn't be a problem.
Action Items:
all: comment by email on document to form legal entity. SD69: refine documment with councellors feedback ivgalvez: contact X-Fade to ask about possibility to obtain any administrative rights on Maemo.org services until migration ivgalvez: prepare minutes from meeting
Meeting held on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/%23maemo-meeting.2012-06-29.log.html#t2012-06-29T21:09:23 )
Attending: Woody14619, SD69, NielDK, Jaffa
Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):
Problems in representation
CA firestorm and proposals
OBS progress and status
Movement on self-sustaining
AI review, other topics.
Topic 1 (Problems in representation)
There has been dispute over personal actions for a few weeks now.
Given Estel's offer in June 15th meeting, proposal is made to remove Chair from Estel.
Three of three present represent a majority, and pass the proposal.
A motion to select and elect a new chair are tabled to next week, in part due to attendance and to reflect on need and responsibilities of the position.
Topic 2 (CA Firestorm and proposals)
A set of proposals is presented for comment and request for actions by Council.
One proposal is requesting devices for Council, freeing CA devices.
Another proposal is requesting if reduced price options are open to Council to buy devices (for use with TMO-raised funds for devices to developers).
There are objections from two Council (one not present), the motion is tabled to next week to allow review and contemplation.
Topic 3 (OBS progress and status)
OBS is moving slower, but still moving.
Documenters are needed, status updated.
SD69 will attend OBS this week, as Woody14619 may not be available (vacation)
Topic 4 (Movement on self-sustaining)
TMO is a-buzz with talk of self-sustaining again, time to move is now.
Discussions about legal entity and US/EU implementation.
Discussions around funding are touched, including startup costs.
By-laws will be drafted and proposed by SD69.
NielDK will look into EU issues on VAT, NFP status and the like.
We should request a rough budget & cost structure from Nokia/Nemein to have a base on where things are now. Breakdown would be best if we can get it.
Topic 5 (AI & Misc)
All AI from last meeting were completed, status given.
Woody14619 will be on vacation and may be off-line through July 9th.
Tabled topics should be brought up next week (Chair & CA proposals)
Action Items:
SD69: Draw up by-laws for new entity for presentation
SD69: Attend OBS to capture needs and Council requests
NielDK: Look into EU laws on NFP, VAT, etc.
NielDK: Post minutes on Monday if Woody is unable.
All: Consider motions on electing new Chair.
All: Consider motions on post-CA proposals.

Council logs for meeting on June 22nd, 2012
Meeting held on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)
Attending: Woody14619, SD69, Ivgalvez, NielDK, Stskeeps
Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):
- Package promotion issue update
- CA wrap-up
- OBS status update
- AI followups and misc topics.
Topic 1 (Package promotion issue update)
- It's confirmed that packages relying on non-free need help promoting.
- Hopes are that this will stop being the case in OBS.
- For now the qt libarary in question will be hand promoted.
- Stskeeps notes that a free package exists similar to the non-free one.
- Woody takes AI to follow up w/ lib maintainer and X-Fade.
- Also, apparently garage creation is hung and not auto-allowing.
- We should change the auto-reply if possible from ext-stefano.mosconi@nokia.com?
Topic 2 (CA Wrap-up)
- All winners have submitted info & stuff is forwarded to Quim.
- FCrochick has donated his device to Coding Competition
- A few people on TMO are crazy...
Topic 3 (OBS status)
- OBS is moving along, including volunteers to document/test OBS when ready.
- Hope is that this can happen soon and work into any migration plans.
Topic 4: (AI and misc)
- All AI from last month are done and/or on-going.
- Thanks to Niel for his collection and work on moderation policy stuff.
Action Items:
Woody: Follow up w/ X-Fade & maintainer about qt-components-10 issue.
Woody: Follow up w/ X-Fade about garage auto-allow.
Post meeting:
- Discussion about the future of Maemo, planning, and options.
- How to present options to the community, and steps to be taken.
- Lots of good input, to be resolved off line and prep for presentation next week.
Congratulations to all winners!
There is a final result, please check the Wiki list.
In order to receive the prize, it's mandatory that all awarded create an account at Nokia Developers. Once created, you need to add your postal information to your profile (otherwise Nokia won't know where to send the device).
Then we need to know your Nokia Developer ID (the login name at Nokia Developers that you have created). All the winners will receive a notification email, please respond to council@maemo.org including the following data:
- Full name
- ID at Nokia Developers
- email address.
Please send this data before next Monday, June 25th, as we need to provide the full list to Nokia to start sending the devices.
Thanks to everyone for participating and for your contributions to Maemo.org. We will need you more than ever in the following months, please keep your level of involvement with the community.
Community Council is glad to invite Community members, to weekly meetings!
Councilors meets every Friday, 18 UTC, at IRC channel #maemo-meeting. Every interested Community Member is free (and welcome) to actively participate. Furthermore, after every meeting, minutes are published on Council's blog and News section of maemo.org.
We're happy to talk with You!

Meeting held on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)
Attending: Woody14619, Estel, SD69, Ivgalvez, NielDK, Stskeeps
Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):
- Community Awards - approaching finale
- Quim's e-mail about Nokia follow-up
- IRC management
- QT-components-10 promotion
- Misc public topics
Topic 1 (CA planning):
- Submissions end Sunday at midnight UTC.
- We placed a self-imposed time limit of June 23rd for deciding winners.
- Coucil should prepare their votes, meeting to be held Tues.
- Email on the topic internaly is welcome as well.
Topic 2 (Quim's e-mail):
- There is general sadness at the state of things in Nokia.
- There is general happiness that Quim is still on board & keeping in contact.
- There is concern that this may be our "6 month" warning sign.
- Observation of Mer may be a good idea to avoid the same pits they've hit.
Topic 3 (IRC management):
>>>SD69 has an emergency & must leave.
- A group account is proposed to "manage problems".
- The concept is spoken against and rejected.
- The concept of crafting a solid policy is raised.
- Discussion is postponed as Estel drops.
- NielDK takes the action item to look at similar groups policies.
Topic 4 (QT-components-10 promotion):
- There is an issue with package promotion that needs to be addressed.
- TMO post is: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220864&postcount=16
- Woody takes AI to contact X-Fade, with followup from Ivan if needed.
Topic 5 (Misc public topics):
- Topic for next meeting: Chair responsibilities and speaking for Council
- AI Review: The "first blog" is still not done. Is it needed now?
Action Items:
All: Review CA applications Monday, meeting Tuesday. Woody: Contact X-Fade about qt-components-10 issue.
NielDK: Find other IRC/op policies for review & collaboration.

Council logs for meeting on June 8th, 2012
Meeting held on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)
Attending: qgil, Woody14619, Estel, SD69, Pali
Ivan & NielDK were unable to attend.
Summary of topics:
- Questions on source for osso-backup (qgil)
- Questions on formalities in allocting devices to CA winners
- Review & status of past meeting AIs.
- IRC moderation / chanop status
Topic 1 (Questions to QGil):
- Will need to send names after verifying proper details are in user profiles on devel.nokia.com
- Winners will need to create an account if they don't have one.
- Confirmation on process for judging when a Council member is a potential CA winner is discussed.
Topic 2 (Review of AIs and status):
- Estel still creating formal Council intro blog, input needed.
- Ivan's AI on contacting devs to push packages is going well.
- Coding competition banner is up on TMO.
- Package movement in system will need to be via X-Fade until COBS.
- Cloaks have been requested, will show up when processed.
- Meeting minutes done, continuing AI for Woody.
- First set of eliminations for CA went smoothly.
Topic3 (IRC Moderation):
- Council is split on need for council representaion as IRC chanop
- Council could become chanop by status vs. by merrit, but should we?
- Insufficient Council present to vote, will be resolved later.
Post meeting topics (probably should have been in-meeting):
- Questions from Pali to qgil & council about libicd promotion.
- Discussion on OBS and enabling thumb in a repository are discussed.
Action Items:
Estel will do the Council intro blog (continued)
Ivan will continue with package list creation for promotion to Extras (continued)
Woody will do meeting minutes and post to blog after approval
All: Prepare for second wave of eliminations on CA and final CA decissions following week.
All: Discussion off-line about Topic #3 (IRC moderation) and vote there-on.
Community Council is pleased to announce start of Community Awards program!
maemo.org Community Awards are part of Nokia's '12 Device Program.
Community Awards (short. CA) are meant to be way of recognizing people, that, for months/years contributed - and continuously contribute - to Maemo Community. Unlike other programs, target audience of CA aren't only developers - suitable candidates include (also) dedicated testers, helpers, hardware modders, contributing participants of brainstorms and so goes on. Usually, it's a mix of all presented above.
From all submissions, Council will choose 25 winners, that will receive prize, from pool of 10 N950's and 15 N9's.
Rules for submissions are, as follows:
1. Receiving submissions will start at Monday, 28 May, 00:00 UTC. It will last for 3 weeks.
2. *Only* self-submissions are allowed, via community mailing list. Submissions may contain rationale - a short description about Your deeds for Community, but it's not required. Contributions of anyone submitting will be analyzed by Council, nevertheless.
3. Submission must contain info, if candidate is interested *only* in one particular type of prize (N950 or N9 - so, in case of not enough devices of preferred type, no prize), or if is going to be satisfied by any.
4. Community Awards are granted for past deeds, so no future projects/promises are considered by Council.
5. Someone, who received N950's in any form before (dev programs, etc) can't submit for/receive another one, but *can* submit for N9.
6. Winners will be chosen by Council in it's discretion, in no more than a week time (so, winners will be announced no more than four weeks after start of program).
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Community Council would like to say huge "Thank You" to every dedicated Maemo contributor!
It's time for the next Maemo election. Any community member who has karma of 100 or more may be nominated for Council or may nominate themselves via the maemo community mailing list (nominations must also be accepted on the mailing list). The nomination period will close on Saturday, 31 March.
The voting is preliminarily scheduled to run from Thursday, 5 April, to Wednesday, 11 April. If there are less than four nominees, then they will be considered to be the consensus choice of the community in the election and no vote will be necessary.
Each member of maemo.org, who has an account that is more than 3 months old and who has earned over 10 karma points on that account, gets an electronic ballot. The election is a "single transferrable vote." They rank their Council candidates in order of preference; if their top candidate cannot get elected with the votes they receive, the votes are redistributed until all council seats have been allocated.
Please give consideration to nominating people you trust with the future of maemo. Nokia will stop future funding for maemo.org and cannot commit to handing over or licensing the website or parts of the infrastructure to the community. The current council has concluded that reorganizing maemo.org is not feasible and has started looking into a Plan B. There have also been proposals to bring Harmattan into maemo.org, and to coordinate with other similar projects such as WebOS, Qt or Nemo. It is preferable that the future of maemo be made by a deliberate decision of the community. Please help that happen by nominating and voting in the election.
