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2014-10-21 Meeting Minutes

2014-10-26 21:19 UTC  by  peterleinchen
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Meeting held 2014-10-21 on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: (xes), Gido Griese (Win7Mac),
Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen)

Partial: Sicelo Mhlongo (sicelo)

Absent: Philippe Coval (RzR)

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):

  • Mailing list moderation
  • Dead/old/obsolete content on entry page http://maemo.org
  • Ongoing tasks: referendum, Code of Conduct, karma, e.V. sub pages, letter to Jolla

Topic (Mailing list moderation):

  • Jussi found out accidentally that the mailing list maemo-community bounces back a feedback to non-subscribed senders like "message is suspended until a moderator checks the content". But mails ending up in a queue that has not been checked for the last 1,5 years.
  • There was a short discussion about the way to handle:
    1.) we change the message to "posting is forbidden from unregistered accounts, please see bla bla bla..."
    2.) we actually get someone to check&moderate the postings. (council for example)
  • At the end juiceme took over the responsibility to check those logs from now on and moderate the mailing list(s).

Topic (Dead/old/obsolete content on entry page http://maemo.org):

  • On the top page of m.o are very old contents, like the announcements from 2013/2010. Furthermore the link to the "abandoned" Cordia project.
    And as I thought the Nokia links (which in fact are working and need to be there, at least the one to http://www.nokia.com/global/wayfinder).
    The one to https://developer.nokia.com is working, but not fully related to Maemo (but to MeeGo and therefore now MS).
  • So the council/board should decide what to do with that Cordia link. And if we keep the announcements ticker on entry page for e.V. reasons, or remove it and use t.m.o as announcement platform (as they belong together now).

Topics (Ongoing tasks: referendum, Code of Conduct, karma, e.V. sub pages, letter to Jolla):

  • Freemangordon showed up late and asked about contacting Jolla for fre(e)mantle source code support.
  • These topics were again shifted to be discussed in next week's meeting.

Action Items:
  • -- old items:
    • Check if karma calculation/evaluation is fixed. - Karma calculation should work, only wiki entries (according to Doc) not considered. To be cross-checked ...
    • NielDK to prepare a draft for letter to Jolla. - Obsolete
    • Sixwheeledbeast to clarify the CSS issue on wiki.maemo.org with techstaff. - Done
    • juiceme to create a wording draft for the referendum (to be counterchecked by council members). - See
    • Everybody to make up their own minds about referendum and give feedback.
    • Peterleinchen to announce resignation of DocScrutinizer*/joerg_rw from council. Done
  • -- new items:
    • Next weeks tasks: referendum, karma check, voting for Code of Conduct, sub pages on m.o for e.V., abandoned link/announcement ticker
Categories: council
hildonfound

Nokia Corporation (“Nokia”) and Hildon Foundation (“Hildon”) have announced an agreement regarding assigning Nokia’s Maemo trademarks, domain names and trademark applications to Hildon. The agreement includes the Maemo community website, www.maemo.org.

Nokia has been the owner of the features of the Maemo brand that have been used in connection with mobile devices and software distributed by Nokia, as well as supporting the maintenance of the Maemo Website for the Maemo community. Nokia has transferred the Maemo brand features to Hildon, who will continue to support the Maemo community.

Hildon shall assume the full responsibility and liability for the maintenance and support of all the activity that is and will be on-going on the Maemo Website. For clarity, Hildon is not responsible for customer support for Nokia mobile devices using Maemo, such as N900 and/or N9. Following the acquisition of substantially all of Nokia’s Devices & Services business by Microsoft in April 2014, Microsoft is now responsible for the support of Nokia branded mobile devices. Local contact details can be found at www.nokia.com/global/wayfinder.

Categories: News
peterleinchen

2014-10-14 Meeting Minutes

2014-10-18 18:35 UTC  by  peterleinchen
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Meeting held 2014-10-14 on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Gido Griese (Win7Mac), Paul Healey (sixwheeledbeast),
Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme), Philippe Coval (RzR), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen)

Partial: (xes), Ruediger Schiller (chem|st)

Absent: Niel Nielsen (nieldk), Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05)

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):

  • Swear filter on TMO (smartwatch)
  • DocScrutinizer/joerg_rw stepped down from Council!
  • Current Council members
  • Transition to Maemo e.V., referendum
  • Code of Conduct
  • Karma calculation

Topic (Swear filter on TMO (smartwatch)):

  • A lengthy discussion about the forum swear filter and its possibilities to be improved.
    At least to enable the upcoming topic 'smartwatch'.
  • Chemist stepped in and explained the difficulties and possibilities of this add-on module.
  • At the end the module is now set to filter out only full words and will allow the word 'smartwatch'.

Topic (DocScrutinizer/joerg_rw stepped down from Council!):

  • Joerg kept quiet and did not see the need to announce his resignation on official channel to the community .
  • The council decided unanimously to do so for him on community mailing list.

Topic (Current Council members):

  • After the resignation of Niel and Joerg the current council now consist of three persons:
    Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme),
    Philippe Coval (RzR),
    Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen).

Topics (Referendum, Karma, Code of Conduct):

  • Short discussion about upcoming referendum, the karma system and Code of Conduct.
  • These topics were shifted to be discussed in next week's meeting.

Action Items:
  • -- old items:
    • Check if karma calculation/evaluation is fixed. - Karma calculation should work, only wiki entries (according to Doc) not considered. To be cross-checked ...
    • NielDK to prepare a draft for letter to Jolla. - Obsolete
    • Sixwheeledbeast to clarify the CSS issue on wiki.maemo.org with techstaff. - Done
    • juiceme to create a wording draft for the referendum (to be counterchecked by council members). - See
    • Everybody to make up their own minds about referendum and give feedback.
  • -- new items:
    • Peterleinchen to announce resignation of DocScrutinizer*/joerg_rw from council.
    • Next weeks tasks: referendum, karma check, voting for Code of Conduct, sub pages on m.o for e.V.
Categories: council
Jussi Ohenoja

2014-10-07 Meeting Minutes

2014-10-11 11:28 UTC  by  Jussi Ohenoja
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Meeting held 2014-10-07 on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme), Philippe Coval (RzR)

Partial: Gido Griese (Win7Mac), Ruediger Schiller (chem|st), (Sicelo900v6)

Absent: Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen), Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05), Niel Nielsen (nieldk)

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):

  • Discussion about resigned councilors and their behaviour

(Topic Discussion about resigned councilors and their behaviour):

  • Nieldk and DocScrutinizer have resigned from the Maemo Council. There was a lengthy discussion on the legitimate way to announce this.
  • As the resignation was done by announcement on TMO and on the Council mailing list, it was decided that a formal resignation notice should be posted to the Maemo Community mailing list by the former councillors.
  • Juiceme and RzR decided to consult peterleinchen on this and write a public letter to Nieldk and DocScrutinizer.

Action Items:
  • -- old items:
    • Check if karma calculation/evaluation is fixed. - Karma calculation should work, only wiki entries (according to Doc) not considered. To be cross-checked ...
    • NielDK to prepare a draft for letter to Jolla. - Obsolete
    • Sixwheeledbeast to clarify the CSS issue on wiki.maemo.org with techstaff. - Done
    • juiceme to create a wording draft for the referendum (to be counterchecked by council members). - See
    • Everybody to make up their own minds about referendum and give feedback.
    • Juiceme to send mail to DocScrutinizer/joerg_rw asking on behalf of council for a statement about his councilor status. - Done
    • Peterleinchen to check CSS bug and inform techstaff. - Solved.
  • -- new items:
    • N/A
Categories: council
peterleinchen

2014-09-30 Meeting Minutes

2014-10-08 22:29 UTC  by  peterleinchen
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Meeting held 2014-09-30 on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme), Philippe Coval (rZr), Niel Nielsen (nieldk), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen)

Partial: Gido Griese (Win7Mac), Paul Healey (sixwheeledbeast)

Absent: Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05)

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):

  • DocScrutinizer/joerg_rw stepped down from Council?
  • Transition to Maemo e.V., referendum
  • Open points, karma

Topic (DocScrutinizer/joerg_rw stepped down from Council?):

  • A longer discussion about whether DocScrutinizer/joerg_rw stepped down from council, or not?
    At least he said so on TMO a few times, but did not yet announce something to Council or on mailing list. Also he did not yet answer to a mail sent by juiceme (in private). Neither did he appear for the last 4 weeks meetings.
    Therefore the Council sees him fully absent. And will try to get an official statement from him once more.

Topic (Transition to Maemo e.V., referendum):

  • Juiceme's post request-for-comments on TMO about the relationship of the Council <-> the e.V. started to get some user comments.
    This discussion should continue on TMO and be the basis for the referendum text.
  • Juiceme asked chem|st about creation of web pages (sub pages on maemo.org) for the e.V.: techstaff should be asked for arrangement and giving rights to board members (i.e. juiceme, nieldk).

Topic (Open points, karma):

  • Short discussion abut open points. Especially the karma system.
  • Karma recalculation is okay, only wiki edits (according to Doc) should not work correctly.
  • Another point is/was the CSS bug on https://wiki.maemo.org.

Action Items:
  • -- old items:
  • Check if karma calculation/evaluation is fixed. - Karma calculation should work, only wiki entries (according to Doc) not considered. To be cross-checked ...
  • NielDK to prepare a draft for letter to Jolla. - Obsolete
  • Sixwheeledbeast to clarify the CSS issue on wiki.maemo.org with techstaff. - Done
  • juiceme to create a wording draft for the referendum (to be counterchecked by council members). - See
  • Everybody to make up their own minds about referendum and give feedback.
  • -- new items:
  • Juiceme to send mail to DocScrutinizer/joerg_rw asking on behalf of council for a statement about his councilor status.
  • Peterleinchen to check CSS bug and inform techstaff.
Categories: council
Philip Van Hoof

I added support for changing the nrl:maxCardinality property of an rdfs:Property from one to many. Earlier Martyn Russel reverted such an ontology change as this was a blocker for the Debian packaging by Michael Biebl.

We only support going from one to many. That’s because going from many to one would obviously imply data-loss (a string-list could work with CSV, but an int-list can’t be stored as CSV in a single-value int type – instead of trying to support nonsense I decided to just not do it at all).

More supported ontology changes can be found here.

Not sure if people care but this stuff was made while listening to Infected Mushroom.

Categories: english
peterleinchen

2014-09-23 Meeting Minutes

2014-09-27 11:30 UTC  by  peterleinchen
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Meeting held 2014-09-23 on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Gido Griese (Win7Mac), Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme)

Absent: Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05), Niel Nielsen (nieldk), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen)

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):

  • Transition to Maemo e.V., referendum and membership registration

Topic (Transition to Maemo e.V., referendum and membership registration):

  • Juiceme posted a request-for-comments on TMO about the relationship of the Council <-> the e.V.
  • Short discussion about membership forms. And required minimum age.

Action Items:
  • -- old items:
  • Check if karma calculation/evaluation is fixed.
  • NielDK to prepare a draft for letter to Jolla.
  • Sixwheeledbeast to clarify the CSS issue on wiki.maemo.org with techstaff.
  • juiceme to create a wording draft for the referendum (to be counterchecked by council members).
  • Everybody to make up their own minds about referendum and give feedback.
  • -- new items:
  • N/A
Categories: council
peterleinchen

2014-09-16 Meeting Minutes

2014-09-24 22:05 UTC  by  peterleinchen
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Meeting held 2014-09-16 on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Gido Griese (Win7Mac), Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen)

Partial: (xes), Paul Healey (sixwheeledbeast), Philippe Coval (rZr)

Absent: Niel Nielsen (nieldk), Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05)


Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):

  • Meeting minutes posted
  • Spam attack on wiki.m.o
  • Transition to Maemo e.V., referendum and ...


Topic (Meeting minutes posted):

  • Short discussion about (delayed) posted minutes of meetings and midgard and its way to run/create TMO posts for those minutes.

Topic (Spam attack on wiki.m.o):

  • Currently maemo.org experienced a spam attack. From some IP rangess known for spamming.
  • It was 'successful' on some of the wiki pages, but tried to attack also other maemo.org sites.
  • It was recognized and posted by a user on TMO. Apparently it was just a minor change and easy to recover.
  • Techstaff set up some firewall rules to block those IPs and get rid of their sniffing/spamming.

Topic (Transition to Maemo e.V., referendum and membership registration):

  • Another discussion on the referendum regarding the "Maemo council and election rules" and the way to prepare/publish it to user base.
  • Referendum should be about:
    Win7Mac: I suggested - specify council duties so that it remains the major active party of community work AND honours the fact that Nokia got replaced by our own community organization, not only in regards to board 23:20
    Win7Mac: - rework council election rules incl. §6 (professional interests) and honoring the fact that Karma system is borked ATM, which results in inaccurate calculation of electorate and candidates. This may serve as an interim solution in hope of Karma system being repairable. 23:20
    Win7Mac: besides that, board already executes Council's (and General Assembly's!) rulings, see MC eV bylaws §7 (5): https://etherpad.mozilla.org/AMabik4zeD 23:43
  • ;
  • Regarding the ongoing and required changes on maemo.org sites, juiceme asked about list of users with their access level.


Action Items:
  • -- old items:
  • Check if karma calculation/evaluation is fixed.
  • NielDK to prepare a draft for letter to Jolla.
  • Sixwheeledbeast to clarify the CSS issue on wiki.maemo.org with techstaff.
  • juiceme to create a wording draft for the referendum (to be counterchecked by council members).
  • -- new items:
  • Everybody to make up their own minds about referendum and give feedback.
Categories: council
admin
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peterleinchen

2014-09-09 Meeting Minutes

2014-09-15 18:35 UTC  by  peterleinchen
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Meeting held 2014-09-09 on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Gido Griese (Win7Mac), Paul Healey (sixwheeledbeast), Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme), Niel Nielsen (nieldk), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen)

Absent: Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05)

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):

  • Certificate issue on wiki.m.o
  • Security check on m.o
  • Transition to Maemo e.V., referendum and membership registration

Topic (Certificate issue on wiki.m.o):

  • A certificate on wiki.maemo.org seems to have "refused" to be updated last month. Issue has been reported by user on TMO.
  • Techstaff immediately resolved this. Big THANKS.
  • Sixwheeledbeast expressed something about CSS misbehaviour on wiki pages (due to static.maemo.org). He was asked to write technical details to techstaff directly to get this resolved.

Topic (Security check on m.o):

  • nieldk proposed to do a scan of maemo.org environment
  • It was agreed that he may check maemo.org for latest vulnerabilities and do a general conformity test. NOT without informing our techstaff before doing so (on #maemo-admin or/and via e-mail).

Topic (Transition to Maemo e.V., referendum and membership registration):

  • Discussion on the referendum regarding the "Maemo council and election rules".
  • The referendum should be held regarding the "specification of council duties" and "rework of council rules". Please see this post/thread for more details.
  • It was agreed that the first draft of wording should be prepared by council (juiceme) and it will be publicly discussed on TMO.
  • RzR pointed out to have mentioned last weeks given CoC (Code of Conduct) rules in that thread.

  • Discussion on the "active member sign up".
  • The current form was sent out by chem|st and thanks to juiceme available for all.
  • Some pros and cons were discussed, but in general the form was agreed.
  • Sending way to e.V. for registration was discussed and answered by chem|st earlier that a scanned copy by mail would be fine. Together with some copy of ID/drivers license.
  • Age of registration candidate was discussed. needs to be over 14 and in case of age below 18/21 a parental signature will be needed too.

  • Future of Maemo regarding monetary affairs was asked.
  • Win/Mac gave the number of currently 3378$ (~2600€) to be handed over to e.V. With a view to free/low-cost hosting (IPHH) and free work of our techstaff this could sound sufficient, but will not suffice for long term...

Action Items:
  • Sixwheeledbeast to clarify the CSS issue on wiki.maemo.org with techstaff.
  • juiceme to create a wording draft for the referendum (to be counterchecked by council members).
Categories: council
peterleinchen

2014-09-02 Meeting Minutes

2014-09-15 18:34 UTC  by  peterleinchen
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Meeting held 2014-09-02 on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Craig Woodward (Woody14619), Gido Griese (Win7Mac), Ruediger Schiller (chem|st), Paul Healey (sixwheeledbeast), Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme), Philippe Coval (rZr), Niel Nielsen (nieldk), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen)

Absent: Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05)

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):

  • NielDK's resignation
  • Discussion on Maemo e.V. and Council rules
  • Code of Conduct

Topic (NielDK's resignation):

  • NielDk joined in even he was not expected to appear after his resignation post.
  • NielDk explained his view on Maemo.org and council/e.V. and the reasons that lead to his decision. I think this quote of NielDK [23:36]: "Let me extend a bit, I think Doc is correct in wanting the council to be the speach organ for the community, towards board, but it is not deciding what the board should accept or do (eV or HiFo), the board cant legally 100% function like that" expresses it the most.
  • At the end of the meeting NielDK was convinced to resign from his resignation. And keep staying active member of Council and board of MC e.V..

Topic (Discussion on Maemo e.V. and Council rules):

  • The discussion faded into the transition to maemo e.V. and again the Council rules.
  • Another quote of Woody14619 [23:40] explains the situation we are in: "There are 3 points of contention: (legal) ownership/liability, (technical) operation, and (community) input and direction. Splitting liability from operation is the issue."
  • Board (e.V.) is the legal representation of maemo.org. And will take all legal responsibilities.
  • The role of e.V. seen by DocScrutinizer is only acting as cashier. But this does not fit the structure!
  • Another reason for clashing seems to be the pretending of "council rules". Council will still be elected by garage members (no change).
    But council election rules may be changed by board (2/3 majority).

  • Short conclusion (by peterleinchen): Council does not operate maemo.org, but eV does. Council is concentrator of community will (and speech organ to board/e.V.). Council will be elected from garage.m.o members. Council cannot force board to act illegally.
    Board is the legal owner (legally responsible). Board is therefore the entity that "governs" maemo.org. Board can change bylaws (also: council election rules) by 2/3 majority.
    The MCeV is an entity and chain of command is "General Meeting>Board>Council"
  • DocScrutinizer joined the channel after the meeting and claimed he just defended the "MAEMO COUNCIL AND ELECTION RULES"

  • Question came up, how much member really care about the community or whether community is already gone (due to so less votes (~100) against sent out tokens (~5800).

Topic (Code of Conduct):

  • RzR asked about to set up a Code of Conduct for maemo.org.
  • Please see the links as examples, like debian kde github mozilla

Action Items:
  • N/A
Categories: council
peterleinchen

2014-08-26 Meeting Minutes

2014-09-15 18:33 UTC  by  peterleinchen
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Meeting held 2014-08-26 on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05), Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme), Philippe Coval (RzR), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen)

Partial: (lbt), (xes), Gido Griese (Win7Mac)

Absent: Niel Nielsen (nieldk)

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):

  • handling of MoMs
  • community input
  • x-fade contact about IRC

Topic (handling of MoMs):

Topic (community input):

  • rZr set up a wiki page for community which can be edited by users. This way community may communicate to council about things to sort.
  • Please see also RzR post on TMO.

Topic (x-fade contact about IRC):

  • Until now we were not able to contact x-fade directly, but could have success by contacting via co-worker.
  • Win7Mac joined in and sent mail from GeneralAntilles, that he was able to get in contact with x-fade.
  • DocScrutinizer05 pointed out to not mix things (IRC resolving vs. Jolla board contact).
  • A new e-mail was set up with some more technical details and sent back to GeneralAntilles (to be forwarded to x-fade).

Action Items:
  • N/A
Categories: council