Meeting held 2014-08-19 at 20:00 UTC on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Paul Haley (sixwheeledbeast) Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05), Niel Nielsen (nieldk), Philippe Coval (RzR)

Partial: (xes)

Absent: Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen)

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):

• new MC e.V. structure, roles of HiFo/MC e.V. and Council
• karma calculation
• coop with Jolla

Topic (new MC e.V. structure, roles of HiFo/MC e.V. and Council):

• Discussion on new MC e.V. structure as well as the roles of HiFo/MC e.V. and council.
• DocScrutinizer disagreed with the authority of MC e.V.
• General agreement that the council rules are already defined.
• Feedback from community is asked for and will be welcome.

Topic (karma calculation):

• Discussion on the "karma" calculation issue for voting system.

Topic (coop/friend with Jolla):

• Discussion on the cooperation / "make friends" with Jolla.

• Check if karma calculation/evaluation is fixed.
• NielDK to prepare a draft for letter to Jolla.

Meeting held 2014-08-12 on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05), Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme), Philippe Coval (RzR), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen)

Partial: (lbt), (xes), Gido Griese (Win7Mac)

Absent: Niel Nielsen (nieldk)

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):

• IRC channel operator priviliges
• Discussion on Council writing an introductory letter to Jolla
• Discussion on a place for Maemo e.V. related documents
• Discussion on the change to Maemo landing-page

Topic (IRC channel operator priviliges):

• It is necessary that some active channel-op has co-GC (Group Coordinator) rights.
• The channelops on #maemo-meeting are GeneralAntilles, Jaffa, jOERG_rw. It was suggested that co-GC rights should be granted to same people.
• The current GC is Xfade, but he has been absent from IRC and not reachable by mail lately. Council needs to contact him to agree on the GC rights transfer.

Topic (Discussion on Council writing an introductory letter to Jolla):

• It was suggested that the new Council should send an introduction to Jolla to present ourselves.
• However it seems that Jolla has no need of Maemo and Maemo has no requirements from Jolla so this is not essential.
• It was pointed out that HiFo has already written an open letter to Jolla earlier, and apart from general goodwill there is no real need of communication between the entities.

Topic (Discussion on a place for Maemo e.V. related documents):

• There needs to be a common place to store e.V. bylaws, meeting minutes, blog posting and membership application forms and guides.
• A wiki page is not optimal for this kind of information, better to have a subpage on Maemo.org hierarchy.
• Win7Mac joined in and sent mail from GeneralAntilles, where he was able to get in contact with x-fade.
• A new e-mail was set up with some more technical details and sent back to GeneralAntilles (to be forwarded to x-fade).

Topic (Discussion on the change to Maemo landing-page):

• It is required that we replace the maemo.org starting-page after nokia signs off.
• There are no other requirements or guidance what/how to do that, except "once we proceed, Nokia will require you to replace the landing-page with a statement announcement for 3 months", whatever that means?
• There is still awful lot of stuff on Maemo.org that refers to Nokia and that needs to be corrected/removed.

• N/A

Meeting held 2014-07-29 at 20:00 UTC on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending:

Partial: Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen)

Absent: Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme), Philippe Coval (RzR), Niel Nielsen (nieldk)

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):

• no topics

• N/A

Meeting held 2014-07-22 at 20:00 UTC on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Ruediger Schiller (chem|st), (xes),
Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme), Philippe Coval (RzR), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen)

Partial: Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05)

Absent: Niel Nielsen (nieldk)

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):

• IRC cloaks
• administration of IRC channels
• certificates problem
• HiFo / MC e.V. transfer
• future of Harmattan
• listing of resources

Topic (IRC cloaks):

• As proposed last meeting by sixwheeledbeast the necessity and the basics (privacy) of cloaks on IRC was discussed briefly.
• As no one claimed to need that, no decision was made. Possibly to decided next meeting.
• Discussion faded smoothly to next topic...

Topic (administration of IRC channels):

• DocScrutinizer05 claimed the non-existence of any administration rights for Maemo affiliated personnel.
• The only person with IRC administrative rights seems to be Nokia/x-fade.
• rZr is going to contact x-fade and convince him to add a member of current council to GC (GroupContact) or inform IRC admins to do so.

Topic (certificates problem):

• chem|st stepped in and announced that all problems regarding certificates and also IRC administration will get solved as soon as the Maemo ownership/licensing is solved.
• This is work to be done by HiFo (resp. MC e.V.), but community may help getting the website straight by editing the documents in this thread.

Topic (HiFo / MC e.V. transfer):

• chem|st explained a bit about the current situation of HiFo (Woody is going to close the American HiFo bank account) and registering of MC e.V. (registration still needs to be confirmed by court).

Topic (future of Harmattan):

• MeeGo/Harmattan is closed down by Nokia. But it is not clear where the rights for Meego/Maemo6/Harmattan are at the moment.
• FOSS source DVD of Harmattan is available and may be hosted on maemo.org (but not to consider due to resource limiting on current infra).
• Firmwares/flasher and so on (binary blobs) will most probably never be available like the ones from Maemo (due to binary blobs of 3rd parties).
• Other resources in question are the SDK repo and some development stuff (scratchbox, VMs).

Topic (listing of resources):

• It was clearly discussed that hosting of above mentioned resources will be against the law. But a named listing of those resources togther with a md5sum (better: sha1sum) will be okay.
• So we ask community to step in and help listing those resources. Please see rZr's post or edit directly here.
• A listing of files available on Nokia's NDS fire servers is also welcome but are to be seen as temporary solution, as those servers are foreseen to close down in near future (at least for our resources).

• RzR trying to contact x-fade.

Meeting held on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Philippe Coval (rZr), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen), Gido Griese (Win7Mac), Paul Healy (sixwheeledbeast), Ruediger Schiller (chem|st), Niel Nielsen (nieldk), Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme).

Absent: Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05)

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):
- Inaugural meeting of the new Maemo Council 2Q/2014
- Discussion on Council work media
- Comments by DocScrutinizer05>

Topic (Inaugural meeting of the new Maemo Council 2Q/2014):

• The meeting started at 20:01 UTC. The new council assembled, and juiceme welcomed the new members.
• The election results can be seen on the voting page. There was discussion on the vote counting algorithm (STV) and the number of ballots cast in the election.
• The council decided to continue the present practice of having weekly meetings on tuesdays at 20:00 UTC. All council members live on UTC, UTC+1, UTC+2 zones.
• There was some discussion of the roles in the Council. After discussion nieldk proposed peterleinchen as Chair & Secretary and juiceme seconded the motion. The vote was unanimous (4/4) and peterleinchen accepted the position.

Topic (Discussion on Council work media):

• There was discussion on how to handle the tasks and documents during council work; possibilities are to use piratepad or wikipage on Maemo for collaboration. The advantage of piratepad would be easy multiediting capabilities, on the other hand wiki is more secure.
• The council voted to use a wiki page as work medium but as wiki cannot be set up as private, email ans piratepad are kept as alternative for in-progress/confidental work.
• Sixwheeledbeast set up a wiki page for Council agenda.

Topic (Comments by DocScrutinizer05):

• Joerg came on the IRC channel later when the meeting was over, having been taken ill, but he had the following comments;
  • The Council has only one set of rules which define what the council is and what the council does.
  • The Council is not subject to directives from any other body.
  • Council work is generally done in the public, unless mandated by specific necessity. For confidental work there is the council members mailing list.
  • Since Hildon Foundation has accepted the Maemo Council as its Council, the Maemo Council is also the Council of the new unified Maemo e.V. that is going to take over the responsibilities of Hildon Foundation.

• N/A

Dear Maemo community, I have the great honor of introducing the new Community Council for the upcoming Q2/2014 period.

The members of the new council are:

• Joerg Reisenweber (joerg_rw)
• Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme)
• Niel Nielsen (nieldk)
• Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen)
• Philippe Coval (rzr)

The voting results can be seen on the voting page

I want to thank warmly all the members of the community who participated in this most important action of choosing a new council for us!

The new council shall meet on the #maemo-meeting IRC channel today at 20:00 UTC for the formal handover with the passing council.

Jussi Ohenoja, Council Chair Q1/2014

On behalf of the outgoing Maemo Community Council

Meeting held on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05), Ruediger Schiller (chem|st), xes, Philippe Coval (rZr), Paul Healy (sixwheeledbeast), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen), Gido Griese (Win7Mac), Tom Joyce (TomJ), dirkvl, Aaron McEwan (chainsawbike), Sebastian Krzyszkowiak (dos1), Martin Kolman (M4rtinK), Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme).

Absent:

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):
- General orienteering for the new council election candidates

Topic (General orienteering for the new council election candidates):

• DocScrutinizer briefed the candidates on council tasks.
  • What the Maemo Council is, and what it does; http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/FAQ
  • What are the rules of the Maemo Council; http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council#Council_work
• All candidates are urged to update their introduction/declaration to the Elections Wiki page; (http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2014/Candidate_declarations)
• There was talk on the responsibilities and interfaces between Council, HiFo and Techstaff
• There are 10 candidates running for the new council: (in alphabetical order of TMO nickname)
  • chainsawbike
  • dirkvl
  • jackburton
  • joerg_rw
  • juiceme
  • Mariusmssj
  • nieldk
  • peterleinchen
  • rzr
  • TomJ
• The current Council voted on eligibility of candidates that apparently have not enough Karma. The vote was unanimous; chainsawbike was declared eligible to run for council.

• N/A

Meeting held on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Ruediger Schiller (chem|st), Gido Griese (Win7Mac), Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05), Paul Healy (sixwheeledbeast), Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme).

Absent:

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):
- Discussion on the handling of device donations
- Status update on the Maemo e.V. registration
- Discussion on the ongoing Maemo Council election

Topic (Discussion on the handling of device donations):

• chem|st asked juiceme to organize a rally to collect device donations to be used as prizes for future Maemo Contests.

Topic (Status update on the Maemo e.V. registration):

• The bylaws have been now signed by juiceme, nieldk and DocScrutinizer. Next going to warfare.

Topic (Discussion on the ongoing Maemo Council election):

• There are no Council candidates, and by original schedule there should be at least four candidates to enter voting phase.
• Due to lack of candidates the schedule is extended by one month. New candidates are being requested for nomination until 30th of June 2014
• Win7Mac and chem|st made a new banner on TMO to direct attention to ongoing elections.
• sixwheeledbeast updated the elections page on Maemo Wiki

• N/A

Meeting held on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Ruediger Schiller (chem|st), Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme).

Absent:

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):
- Discussion on arranging the next Maemo Council election
- Discussion on maemo.gitorious.org

Topic (Discussion on arranging the next Maemo Counco election):

• Juiceme has made the announcement of the election.
• Woody has been very helpful and provided juiceme assistance on running the voting machine.
• Juiceme has not yet had time to create a test election.

Topic (Discussion on maemo.gitorious.org):

• HiFo was contacted by Nokia/Microsoft about the use of maemo.gitorious.org to the Maemo community and if it needs to be kept alive in this way as they want to discontinue the contract with gitorious.org.
• Chem|st approached Gitorious' staff about possible solutions working out for us and Techstaff is looking into proper backups of these gits and hosting them our own.

• N/A

Dear friends and Maemoans, it has been a busy six months, and again it is time to elect a new Community Council for us.

The last election finished on Saturday 14th of December 2013 so the new election should be done by Saturday 14th of June 2014.

The schedule of the voting is as follows:

• Nomination period starts now on the 5th of May 2014 and continues until 31st of May 2014.
• Contemplation period starts on Sunday 1st of June 2014 and continues until Saturday 7th of June 2014.
• Election period starts on Sunday 8th of June 2014 and continues until 14th of June 2014.

To get our community to continue strong, we need fresh people with fresh viewpoints to carry on the torch, so please think about volunteering for Maemo Council.

Currently there is lots of things going on, as the Maemo council is now the one unified Council, acting on behalf of the whole Maemo Community and its legal representation bodies, the Maemo e.V. (registered association, successor to HiFo) and the Hildon Foundation.

On behalf of the outgoing community council,

Jussi Ohenoja