Good bye!
Re: Good bye!
Re: Good bye!
2012-06-26 10:05 UTC
/Full-quoting, answering above the quote
/These terms are unfamiliar to me. Can you point out an appropriate 'guide' to using the mailing list in a respectful fashion?
On 26/06/2012 10:40, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 17:52 +1000, Jed wrote:
>> whatever man, you finished whining yet.
> Full-quoting, answering above the quote, having nothing to express
> except for a snarky comment that does not interest anybody else on the
> mailing list, and most importantly missing respect towards others:
>
> Welcome to maemo-community mailing list in June 2012!
>
> andre
>
/These terms are unfamiliar to me. Can you point out an appropriate 'guide' to using the mailing list in a respectful fashion?
On 26/06/2012 10:40, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 17:52 +1000, Jed wrote:
>> whatever man, you finished whining yet.
> Full-quoting, answering above the quote, having nothing to express
> except for a snarky comment that does not interest anybody else on the
> mailing list, and most importantly missing respect towards others:
>
> Welcome to maemo-community mailing list in June 2012!
>
> andre
>
Re: Good bye!
Re: Good bye!
2012-06-26 10:12 UTC
LOL that's funny, you call your last few posts "contributions" do you.
It's amazing he'd even be siding with your post (which sought to
continue the initial troll post) over my (initially) calm/polite response.
I can only assume he suffered some kind of brief reading comprehension fail.
Tell me, what are your actual contributions to TMO, apart from your loud
mouth on this list?
On 26/06/12 8:02 PM, claude bucher wrote:
> André,
>
> thank you for your support.
> i guess the netiquette of old still holds... don't feed the troll, no
> matter how little they have to contribute ;)
>
> On 26 June 2012 11:40, Andre Klapper <andre_klapper@gmx.net
> <mailto:andre_klapper@gmx.net>> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 17:52 +1000, Jed wrote:
> > whatever man, you finished whining yet.
>
> Full-quoting, answering above the quote, having nothing to express
> except for a snarky comment that does not interest anybody else on the
> mailing list, and most importantly missing respect towards others:
>
> Welcome to maemo-community mailing list in June 2012!
>
> andre
>
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It's amazing he'd even be siding with your post (which sought to
continue the initial troll post) over my (initially) calm/polite response.
I can only assume he suffered some kind of brief reading comprehension fail.
Tell me, what are your actual contributions to TMO, apart from your loud
mouth on this list?
On 26/06/12 8:02 PM, claude bucher wrote:
> André,
>
> thank you for your support.
> i guess the netiquette of old still holds... don't feed the troll, no
> matter how little they have to contribute ;)
>
> On 26 June 2012 11:40, Andre Klapper <andre_klapper@gmx.net
> <mailto:andre_klapper@gmx.net>> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 17:52 +1000, Jed wrote:
> > whatever man, you finished whining yet.
>
> Full-quoting, answering above the quote, having nothing to express
> except for a snarky comment that does not interest anybody else on the
> mailing list, and most importantly missing respect towards others:
>
> Welcome to maemo-community mailing list in June 2012!
>
> andre
>
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Re: Good bye!
Re: Good bye!

Craig Woodward
K.. I'm calling it: This horse is officially dead. Can we all just calm down now?
This mess has been raging on TMO, IRC, and now here. Frankly it's now just absorbing time, pissing people off, and doing nothing but preventing real and needed work from getting done.
I know most of you share the feeling that the community is worth being in and saving. We have a lot of the latter to do, and none of this is causing progress, in any form.
Instead of writing a witty reply, go write a script, or a news letter, or update a wiki page, or whatever it is you do for the community. Anything but being bitter, catty, or trolly, please?
---- Andre Klapper <andre_klapper@gmx.net> wrote:
>Welcome to maemo-community mailing list in June 2012!
This mess has been raging on TMO, IRC, and now here. Frankly it's now just absorbing time, pissing people off, and doing nothing but preventing real and needed work from getting done.
I know most of you share the feeling that the community is worth being in and saving. We have a lot of the latter to do, and none of this is causing progress, in any form.
Instead of writing a witty reply, go write a script, or a news letter, or update a wiki page, or whatever it is you do for the community. Anything but being bitter, catty, or trolly, please?
---- Andre Klapper <andre_klapper@gmx.net> wrote:
>Welcome to maemo-community mailing list in June 2012!
Re: Good bye!
2012-06-26 17:31 UTC
On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:05:49 +0100, Paul Sleggs wrote:
> /Full-quoting, answering above the quote
>
> /These terms are unfamiliar to me. Can you point out an appropriate 'guide' to using the mailing list in a respectful fashion?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_posting
has a nice explanation about quoting styles.
The "interleaved style" mentioned there has been used on mailing
lists and in newsgroups for decades, and is AFAICS still the
preferred style on all technical mailing lists I read (except the
maemo ones, unfortunately).
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> fn:Paul Sleggs
> n:Sleggs;Paul
> email;internet:paul.sleggs@gmail.com
> x-mozilla-html:TRUE
> version:2.1
> end:vcard
Please also try to turn off the vcard.
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> /Full-quoting, answering above the quote
>
> /These terms are unfamiliar to me. Can you point out an appropriate 'guide' to using the mailing list in a respectful fashion?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_posting
has a nice explanation about quoting styles.
The "interleaved style" mentioned there has been used on mailing
lists and in newsgroups for decades, and is AFAICS still the
preferred style on all technical mailing lists I read (except the
maemo ones, unfortunately).
> begin:vcard
> fn:Paul Sleggs
> n:Sleggs;Paul
> email;internet:paul.sleggs@gmail.com
> x-mozilla-html:TRUE
> version:2.1
> end:vcard
Please also try to turn off the vcard.
Hints about email signatures can be found at e.g.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_block
Thanks for your interest in these issues and your willingness to make
reading your mails more pleasant for your audience!
Cheers,
gregor
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`- NP: Treibhaus: Sergent Garcia
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Re: Good bye!
2012-06-26 18:45 UTC
On 27/06/12 3:29 AM, Craig Woodward wrote:
>
> K.. I'm calling it: This horse is officially dead. Can we all just calm down now?
Hey I'm all for that.....
Okay so I & OTHERS aren't adhering to mail-list conventions in our
posting style & email client config.
Woopty doo, how on earth is that WORSE than the "sour grape" posts in
this thread?
(or possibly just misinformed on the full tenor of the CA selection
debate, which is way I directed them to TMO)
It's interesting, when you look at the two posters questioning the
credibility of the selection process/council etc.
They're actually two users who don't seem to have done much at all in
their time with TMO.
ESPECIALLY compared to the users who HAVE been selected as winners.
I'm also one of those users whose contributions pale in comparison to
others.
I'd kinda understand if INATB or someone like that was whining, but I
guess he's got better things to do with his time.
I'm unsubscribing now anyway, as there's no need to be here.
The interesting stuff is happening elsewhere, when/if there's time.
Sorry for the extra unnecessary noise, I didn't start it, but I was
wrong in perpetuating it.
Sorry for swearing at you Andre & my 1st insult in reaction to your
posts Claude.
But you both very much deserved it as best as I can tell ;)
I don't hold on to ill will, I hope you don't, see you all sooner or
later at TMO hey!?
Ciao.
>
> K.. I'm calling it: This horse is officially dead. Can we all just calm down now?
Hey I'm all for that.....
Okay so I & OTHERS aren't adhering to mail-list conventions in our
posting style & email client config.
Woopty doo, how on earth is that WORSE than the "sour grape" posts in
this thread?
(or possibly just misinformed on the full tenor of the CA selection
debate, which is way I directed them to TMO)
It's interesting, when you look at the two posters questioning the
credibility of the selection process/council etc.
They're actually two users who don't seem to have done much at all in
their time with TMO.
ESPECIALLY compared to the users who HAVE been selected as winners.
I'm also one of those users whose contributions pale in comparison to
others.
I'd kinda understand if INATB or someone like that was whining, but I
guess he's got better things to do with his time.
I'm unsubscribing now anyway, as there's no need to be here.
The interesting stuff is happening elsewhere, when/if there's time.
Sorry for the extra unnecessary noise, I didn't start it, but I was
wrong in perpetuating it.
Sorry for swearing at you Andre & my 1st insult in reaction to your
posts Claude.
But you both very much deserved it as best as I can tell ;)
I don't hold on to ill will, I hope you don't, see you all sooner or
later at TMO hey!?
Ciao.
Community Awards results [was: Re: Good bye!]

Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 21:06 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> The last great stand, a.k.a. "Community Awards"
BTW: Looks like "Community Awards" results were silently (in the sense
of not mentioning it on the dedicated community mailing list) published
on https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Awards#Winners for those who care.
andre
> The last great stand, a.k.a. "Community Awards"
BTW: Looks like "Community Awards" results were silently (in the sense
of not mentioning it on the dedicated community mailing list) published
on https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Awards#Winners for those who care.
andre
Re: Community Awards results [was: Re: Good bye!]
2012-06-26 22:39 UTC
Andre, they were published via maemo.org news system, on TMO, and on
Wiki. I can't say about mailinglist, but for sure, winners got
personal mails too.
If it wasn't published on mailing list, it's definitely a mistake, but
nothing around "wanted to hide it". and for sure, wiki wasn't only one
place to find it.
/Estel
2012/6/26, Andre Klapper <andre_klapper@gmx.net>:
> On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 21:06 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>> The last great stand, a.k.a. "Community Awards"
>
> BTW: Looks like "Community Awards" results were silently (in the sense
> of not mentioning it on the dedicated community mailing list) published
> on https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Awards#Winners for those who care.
>
> andre
>
>
Wiki. I can't say about mailinglist, but for sure, winners got
personal mails too.
If it wasn't published on mailing list, it's definitely a mistake, but
nothing around "wanted to hide it". and for sure, wiki wasn't only one
place to find it.
/Estel
2012/6/26, Andre Klapper <andre_klapper@gmx.net>:
> On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 21:06 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>> The last great stand, a.k.a. "Community Awards"
>
> BTW: Looks like "Community Awards" results were silently (in the sense
> of not mentioning it on the dedicated community mailing list) published
> on https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Awards#Winners for those who care.
>
> andre
>
>

thank you for your support.
i guess the netiquette of old still holds... don't feed the troll, no
matter how little they have to contribute ;)
On 26 June 2012 11:40, Andre Klapper <andre_klapper@gmx.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 17:52 +1000, Jed wrote:
> > whatever man, you finished whining yet.
>
> Full-quoting, answering above the quote, having nothing to express
> except for a snarky comment that does not interest anybody else on the
> mailing list, and most importantly missing respect towards others:
>
> Welcome to maemo-community mailing list in June 2012!
>
> andre
>
>