Re: N9 device seeding activity

Re: N9 device seeding activity

Arie Mark
Karma: 17
2012-04-26 00:54 UTC
For the competition we should have 5 devices, at least 2 N950's if possible. For the coding competition if no one steps up, I will also volunteer.

I want to handle the community awards, I am voluteering for that responsibility. I am heavily involved with the community devs and can think of a few who should get N9's, can we allocate at least 10-20 devices for this and 1 N950 if possible.

--

Arie

www.everythingn9.com

@everythingN9 on twitter
Sent from my Nokia N9



On 4/25/12 6:49 PM Quim Gil wrote:

So...


- How many devices do you need for the competition? Who coordinates?


- How many for the community awards? Who coordinates?


You can assign the devices as you wish and when you wish, but knowing
now how many you need would allow us to organize the other activities
properly.

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Re: N9 device seeding activity

RM Bauer
Karma: 554
2012-04-26 01:34 UTC
For the competition, we should have at least 20 devices, which is the
number we had last year. A few more would be nice because we have been
talking about adding a new category for platform contributions rather than
apps.

For the community awards, I think council should coordinate. I would
propose to make a prominent announcement, have a wiki page stating criteria
and allowing for individuals to state why they should get an award
according to the criteria, and then a panel of three (who already have
device and are ineligible for second device) should make the final
decisions.

Rob

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:54 PM, <arie@everythingn9.com> wrote:

> For the competition we should have 5 devices, at least 2 N950's if
> possible. For the coding competition if no one steps up, I will also
> volunteer.
>
>
> I want to handle the community awards, I am voluteering for that
> responsibility. I am heavily involved with the community devs and can think
> of a few who should get N9's, can we allocate at least 10-20 devices for
> this and 1 N950 if possible.
>
>
> --
>
> Arie
>
> www.everythingn9.com
>
> @everythingN9 on twitter
> Sent from my Nokia N9
>
> On 4/25/12 6:49 PM Quim Gil wrote:
> So...
>
> - How many devices do you need for the competition? Who coordinates?
>
> - How many for the community awards? Who coordinates?
>
> You can assign the devices as you wish and when you wish, but knowing
> now how many you need would allow us to organize the other activities
> properly.
>
> --
> Quim
> _______________________________________________
> maemo-community mailing list
> maemo-community@maemo.org
> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: N9 device seeding activity

Cosimo Kroll
Karma: 618
2012-04-26 04:35 UTC
That's right, last year we had about 20 devices.
Nine N9s, ten N900s and some Intel MeeGo devices.

As suggested, I'd propose the N950s for the competition. Reasons were also
mentioned.

Cosimo

2012/4/26 robert bauer <nybauer@gmail.com>

> For the competition, we should have at least 20 devices, which is the
> number we had last year. A few more would be nice because we have been
> talking about adding a new category for platform contributions rather than
> apps.
>
> For the community awards, I think council should coordinate. I would
> propose to make a prominent announcement, have a wiki page stating criteria
> and allowing for individuals to state why they should get an award
> according to the criteria, and then a panel of three (who already have
> device and are ineligible for second device) should make the final
> decisions.
>
> Rob
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:54 PM, <arie@everythingn9.com> wrote:
>
>> For the competition we should have 5 devices, at least 2 N950's if
>> possible. For the coding competition if no one steps up, I will also
>> volunteer.
>>
>>
>> I want to handle the community awards, I am voluteering for that
>> responsibility. I am heavily involved with the community devs and can think
>> of a few who should get N9's, can we allocate at least 10-20 devices for
>> this and 1 N950 if possible.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Arie
>>
>> www.everythingn9.com
>>
>> @everythingN9 on twitter
>> Sent from my Nokia N9
>>
>> On 4/25/12 6:49 PM Quim Gil wrote:
>> So...
>>
>> - How many devices do you need for the competition? Who coordinates?
>>
>> - How many for the community awards? Who coordinates?
>>
>> You can assign the devices as you wish and when you wish, but knowing
>> now how many you need would allow us to organize the other activities
>> properly.
>>
>> --
>> Quim
>> _______________________________________________
>> maemo-community mailing list
>> maemo-community@maemo.org
>> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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Re: N9 device seeding activity

Piotr Jawidzyk
Karma: 961
2012-04-26 10:20 UTC
+1 on coordinating awards by Council. With all due respect, I don't see single reason, why Arie should maintain it.

/Estel

On czw 26 kwi 2012 06:35:27 CEST, Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah@googlemail.com> wrote:

> That's right, last year we had about 20 devices.
> Nine N9s, ten N900s and some Intel MeeGo devices.
>
> As suggested, I'd propose the N950s for the competition. Reasons were
> also mentioned.
>
> Cosimo
>
> 2012/4/26 robert bauer <nybauer@gmail.com>
>
> > For the competition, we should have at least 20 devices, which is the
> > number we had last year.  A few more would be nice because we have been
> > talking about adding a new category for platform contributions rather
> > than apps.
> >
> > For the community awards, I think council should coordinate.  I would
> > propose to make a prominent announcement, have a wiki page stating
> > criteria and allowing for individuals to state why they should get an
> > award according to the criteria, and then a panel of three (who
> > already have device and are ineligible for second device) should make
> > the final decisions.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:54 PM, <arie@everythingn9.com> wrote:
> >
> > > For the competition we should have 5 devices, at least 2 N950's if
> > > possible. For the coding competition if no one steps up, I will also
> > > volunteer.
> > >
> > >
> > > I want to handle the community awards, I am voluteering for that
> > > responsibility. I am heavily involved with the community devs and
> > > can think of a few who should get N9's, can we allocate at least
> > > 10-20 devices for this and 1 N950 if possible.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Arie
> > >
> > > www.everythingn9.com
> > >
> > > @everythingN9 on twitter
> > > Sent from my Nokia N9
> > >
> > > On 4/25/12 6:49 PM Quim Gil wrote:
> > > So...
> > >
> > > - How many devices do you need for the competition? Who coordinates?
> > >
> > > - How many for the community awards? Who coordinates?
> > >
> > > You can assign the devices as you wish and when you wish, but knowing
> > > now how many you need would allow us to organize the other activities
> > > properly.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Quim
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > maemo-community mailing list
> > > maemo-community@maemo.org
> > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > maemo-community mailing list
> > > maemo-community@maemo.org
> > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > maemo-community mailing list
> > maemo-community@maemo.org
> > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
> >
> >


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Re: N9 device seeding activity

2012-04-26 13:53 UTC
I completely agree about coordinating with Council and the number of
devices as proposed by Rob and Cosimo.

2012/4/26 twilight312@gmail.com <twilight312@gmail.com>

> **
>
> +1 on coordinating awards by Council. With all due respect, I don't see
> single reason, why Arie should maintain it.
>
> /Estel
>
> On czw 26 kwi 2012 06:35:27 CEST, Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > That's right, last year we had about 20 devices.
> > Nine N9s, ten N900s and some Intel MeeGo devices.
> >
> > As suggested, I'd propose the N950s for the competition. Reasons were
> > also mentioned.
> >
> > Cosimo
> >
> > 2012/4/26 robert bauer <nybauer@gmail.com>
> >
> > > For the competition, we should have at least 20 devices, which is the
> > > number we had last year. A few more would be nice because we have
> been
> > > talking about adding a new category for platform contributions rather
> > > than apps.
> > >
> > > For the community awards, I think council should coordinate. I would
> > > propose to make a prominent announcement, have a wiki page stating
> > > criteria and allowing for individuals to state why they should get an
> > > award according to the criteria, and then a panel of three (who
> > > already have device and are ineligible for second device) should make
> > > the final decisions.
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:54 PM, <arie@everythingn9.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > For the competition we should have 5 devices, at least 2 N950's if
> > > > possible. For the coding competition if no one steps up, I will also
> > > > volunteer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I want to handle the community awards, I am voluteering for that
> > > > responsibility. I am heavily involved with the community devs and
> > > > can think of a few who should get N9's, can we allocate at least
> > > > 10-20 devices for this and 1 N950 if possible.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Arie
> > > >
> > > > www.everythingn9.com
> > > >
> > > > @everythingN9 on twitter
> > > > Sent from my Nokia N9
> > > >
> > > > On 4/25/12 6:49 PM Quim Gil wrote:
> > > > So...
> > > >
> > > > - How many devices do you need for the competition? Who coordinates?
> > > >
> > > > - How many for the community awards? Who coordinates?
> > > >
> > > > You can assign the devices as you wish and when you wish, but
> knowing
> > > > now how many you need would allow us to organize the other
> activities
> > > > properly.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Quim
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > maemo-community mailing list
> > > > maemo-community@maemo.org
> > > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > maemo-community mailing list
> > > > maemo-community@maemo.org
> > > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > maemo-community mailing list
> > > maemo-community@maemo.org
> > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>


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Re: N9 device seeding activity

Timo Härkönen
Karma: 417
2012-04-26 14:42 UTC
Hi

26. huhtikuuta 2012 16.53 Iván Gálvez Junquera <ivgalvez@gmail.com>kirjoitti:

> I completely agree about coordinating with Council and the number of
> devices as proposed by Rob and Cosimo.
>

I agree on the device amount for the competition but didn't see anyone
proposing an amount for the seeding itself. So I'm proposing 80 to get that
discussion going. That would make the total number of devices 100. I think
the seeding should be done like proposed earlier by providing a wiki page
where people willing to get one need to add their details including past,
current and planned contributions to the community. So pretty similar thing
that Quim & co. used with the meego developer device program. And then the
council decides who gets a device.

In any case I'd like to see the requirements for getting a device clearly
documented (after there's a consensus for them) to the same wiki page. So
I'd ask for Maemo.org user name with link to the profile, description of
contributions with links to those and summary of future plans. So my main
requirerement would be contributions that benefit the community. There's a
lot of stuff that be contributed to the community and they should all have
some weight. Contributions can be applications, other development, QA,
helping people, communications (think about what people behind the weekly
news are doing) or something else.

This might sound like self evident but when it comes to free gadgets the
rules need to be very clear and the instance who has the final say clearly
definded (the council). And I also agree that in no situation should one
single person be able to make the call on who gets a device or not.
Therefore I'd wait until the new council has been elected (no disrepect to
Rob intended).

BR

-Timo


>
> 2012/4/26 twilight312@gmail.com <twilight312@gmail.com>
>
> **
>>
>> +1 on coordinating awards by Council. With all due respect, I don't see
>> single reason, why Arie should maintain it.
>>
>> /Estel
>>
>> On czw 26 kwi 2012 06:35:27 CEST, Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > That's right, last year we had about 20 devices.
>> > Nine N9s, ten N900s and some Intel MeeGo devices.
>> >
>> > As suggested, I'd propose the N950s for the competition. Reasons were
>> > also mentioned.
>> >
>> > Cosimo
>> >
>> > 2012/4/26 robert bauer <nybauer@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > > For the competition, we should have at least 20 devices, which is the
>> > > number we had last year. A few more would be nice because we have
>> been
>> > > talking about adding a new category for platform contributions rather
>> > > than apps.
>> > >
>> > > For the community awards, I think council should coordinate. I would
>> > > propose to make a prominent announcement, have a wiki page stating
>> > > criteria and allowing for individuals to state why they should get an
>> > > award according to the criteria, and then a panel of three (who
>> > > already have device and are ineligible for second device) should make
>> > > the final decisions.
>> > >
>> > > Rob
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:54 PM, <arie@everythingn9.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > For the competition we should have 5 devices, at least 2 N950's if
>> > > > possible. For the coding competition if no one steps up, I will
>> also
>> > > > volunteer.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I want to handle the community awards, I am voluteering for that
>> > > > responsibility. I am heavily involved with the community devs and
>> > > > can think of a few who should get N9's, can we allocate at least
>> > > > 10-20 devices for this and 1 N950 if possible.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > >
>> > > > Arie
>> > > >
>> > > > www.everythingn9.com
>> > > >
>> > > > @everythingN9 on twitter
>> > > > Sent from my Nokia N9
>> > > >
>> > > > On 4/25/12 6:49 PM Quim Gil wrote:
>> > > > So...
>> > > >
>> > > > - How many devices do you need for the competition? Who
>> coordinates?
>> > > >
>> > > > - How many for the community awards? Who coordinates?
>> > > >
>> > > > You can assign the devices as you wish and when you wish, but
>> knowing
>> > > > now how many you need would allow us to organize the other
>> activities
>> > > > properly.
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Quim
>> > > > _______________________________________________
>> > > > maemo-community mailing list
>> > > > maemo-community@maemo.org
>> > > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > _______________________________________________
>> > > > maemo-community mailing list
>> > > > maemo-community@maemo.org
>> > > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > maemo-community mailing list
>> > > maemo-community@maemo.org
>> > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Iván Gálvez Junquera
>
>
>

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Re: N9 device seeding activity

Arie Mark
Karma: 17
2012-04-26 14:48 UTC
Estel I am fine with council awarding the N9's, but there are so many devs that have made a difference for the N9 that will probably never be noticed, could you at least name a few that you feel are qualified to get devices from the program?

I actually test a lot of apps for the devs and am involved with them trying to make them a finished product for the N9. I don't want a device at all, but who better to be involved in the decision of who gets one than a person that doesn't need a device (I have 3 N9's) and actually is in communication with the people that are bringing about some of the best apps that we currently see?

--

Arie

www.everythingn9.com

@everythingN9 on twitter
Sent from my Nokia N9



On 4/26/12 6:20 AM twilight312@gmail.com wrote:

+1 on coordinating awards by Council. With all due respect, I don't see single reason, why Arie should maintain it.

/Estel

On czw 26 kwi 2012 06:35:27 CEST, Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah@googlemail.com> wrote:

> That's right, last year we had about 20 devices.
> Nine N9s, ten N900s and some Intel MeeGo devices.
>
> As suggested, I'd propose the N950s for the competition. Reasons were
> also mentioned.
>
> Cosimo
>
> 2012/4/26 robert bauer <nybauer@gmail.com>
>
> > For the competition, we should have at least 20 devices, which is the
> > number we had last year. A few more would be nice because we have been
> > talking about adding a new category for platform contributions rather
> > than apps.
> >
> > For the community awards, I think council should coordinate. I would
> > propose to make a prominent announcement, have a wiki page stating
> > criteria and allowing for individuals to state why they should get an
> > award according to the criteria, and then a panel of three (who
> > already have device and are ineligible for second device) should make
> > the final decisions.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:54 PM, <arie@everythingn9.com> wrote:
> >
> > > For the competition we should have 5 devices, at least 2 N950's if
> > > possible. For the coding competition if no one steps up, I will also
> > > volunteer.
> > >
> > >
> > > I want to handle the community awards, I am voluteering for that
> > > responsibility. I am heavily involved with the community devs and
> > > can think of a few who should get N9's, can we allocate at least
> > > 10-20 devices for this and 1 N950 if possible.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Arie
> > >
> > > www.everythingn9.com
> > >
> > > @everythingN9 on twitter
> > > Sent from my Nokia N9
> > >
> > > On 4/25/12 6:49 PM Quim Gil wrote:
> > > So...
> > >
> > > - How many devices do you need for the competition? Who coordinates?
> > >
> > > - How many for the community awards? Who coordinates?
> > >
> > > You can assign the devices as you wish and when you wish, but knowing
> > > now how many you need would allow us to organize the other activities
> > > properly.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Quim
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > maemo-community mailing list
> > > maemo-community@maemo.org
> > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > maemo-community mailing list
> > > maemo-community@maemo.org
> > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > maemo-community mailing list
> > maemo-community@maemo.org
> > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
> >
> >




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Re: N9 device seeding activity

Arie Mark
Karma: 17
2012-04-26 14:48 UTC
I fully agree with Rob and Cosimo's number as well.

--

Arie

www.everythingn9.com

@everythingN9 on twitter
Sent from my Nokia N9



On 4/26/12 9:53 AM Iván Gálvez Junquera wrote:

I completely agree about coordinating with Council and the number of devices as proposed by Rob and Cosimo.


2012/4/26 twilight312@gmail.com <twilight312@gmail.com>

+1 on coordinating awards by Council. With all due respect, I don't see single reason, why Arie should maintain it.

/Estel


On czw 26 kwi 2012 06:35:27 CEST, Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah@googlemail.com> wrote:

> That's right, last year we had about 20 devices.
> Nine N9s, ten N900s and some Intel MeeGo devices.
>
> As suggested, I'd propose the N950s for the competition. Reasons were
> also mentioned.
>
> Cosimo
>
> 2012/4/26 robert bauer <nybauer@gmail.com>
>
> > For the competition, we should have at least 20 devices, which is the
> > number we had last year. A few more would be nice because we have been
> > talking about adding a new category for platform contributions rather
> > than apps.
> >
> > For the community awards, I think council should coordinate. I would
> > propose to make a prominent announcement, have a wiki page stating
> > criteria and allowing for individuals to state why they should get an
> > award according to the criteria, and then a panel of three (who
> > already have device and are ineligible for second device) should make
> > the final decisions.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:54 PM, <arie@everythingn9.com> wrote:
> >
> > > For the competition we should have 5 devices, at least 2 N950's if
> > > possible. For the coding competition if no one steps up, I will also
> > > volunteer.
> > >
> > >
> > > I want to handle the community awards, I am voluteering for that
> > > responsibility. I am heavily involved with the community devs and
> > > can think of a few who should get N9's, can we allocate at least
> > > 10-20 devices for this and 1 N950 if possible.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Arie
> > >
> > > www.everythingn9.com
> > >
> > > @everythingN9 on twitter
> > > Sent from my Nokia N9
> > >
> > > On 4/25/12 6:49 PM Quim Gil wrote:
> > > So...
> > >
> > > - How many devices do you need for the competition? Who coordinates?
> > >
> > > - How many for the community awards? Who coordinates?
> > >
> > > You can assign the devices as you wish and when you wish, but knowing
> > > now how many you need would allow us to organize the other activities
> > > properly.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Quim
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > maemo-community mailing list
> > > maemo-community@maemo.org
> > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > maemo-community mailing list
> > > maemo-community@maemo.org
> > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > maemo-community mailing list
> > maemo-community@maemo.org
> > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
> >
> >










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Re: N9 device seeding activity

Quim Gil
Karma: 2662
2012-04-26 17:40 UTC
Alright, 25 devices for the coding competition. Based on last year's
precedent. Confirmed.

About the community awards... 25 devices more sounds a bit arbitrary.
How is it organized? Are there categories or is it just about finding
the right people? Can we keep the deadline around the beginning of June
to avoid the clash with Summer holidays?

Devices will default to N950, having a few N9s available just in case.

Note that I'd still would like to keep devices for other two activities:

- Existing projects being ported/polished for the Nokia Store.

- Qt 5 experimental projects.

--
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Re: N9 device seeding activity

2012-04-26 18:43 UTC
Hi,

What do you think of those categories :

* best opensource app(s?)
* best qt app
* best cross platform app (must support at least 2 OS) ..
* best maemo6

Optinnal ones :

* best non qt app
* best maemo5
* best maemo4
* best maemo7 ?
* best closedsource app(s?)


Regards ...


On 4/26/12, Quim Gil <quim.gil@nokia.com> wrote:
> Alright, 25 devices for the coding competition. Based on last year's
> precedent. Confirmed.
>
> About the community awards... 25 devices more sounds a bit arbitrary.
> How is it organized? Are there categories or is it just about finding
> the right people? Can we keep the deadline around the beginning of June
> to avoid the clash with Summer holidays?
>
> Devices will default to N950, having a few N9s available just in case.
>
> Note that I'd still would like to keep devices for other two activities:
>
> - Existing projects being ported/polished for the Nokia Store.
>
> - Qt 5 experimental projects.
>
> --
> Quim
>


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