the hell of Maemo repos

On Nov 22, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:

> sebastian maemo wrote:
>
>> Why should I complain?... I think it's a great idea... when it's
>> done with
>> care of course... you cannot disable a repository until you confirm
>> that all
>> packages are correctly transferred... But it's so logical thing
>> that I
>> really don't understand what all you are talking about...
>
> Nokia/Maemo.org . . . Nokia/Maemo.org . . . Nokia/Maemo.org . . .
> Nokia/Maemo.org

Just to clarify, the decision to centralize on Extras came from the
community and maemo.org. Nokia was not involved. ;)

--
Ryan Abel
Maemo Community Council chair

Ok, thanks to all of you for so much feedback... this means people is
involved anyway...

I think it's time to flash back and try to be constructive... As I've
admitted before, the original rant of the first mail in the thread is
because of the obvious disappointment after so many months having struggled
to get things working on my tablet and once realize that everything could be
just broken down too easy...

I think that to have your own repo of deb packages shouldn't be necessary,
but the point is that now I already have mine...

Besides, I think that when somenone builds a package and it becomes useful
for somebody else then it transcends his/her ownership and becomes something
public that needs to be protected by, for example in this case, Maemo.org...
Maybe the original developer isn't interested any more in his/her own
package but surely someone else is... That could be the case of kismet
port...

And finally, I think that Maemo maintainers and involved people shouldn't
play so defensively when a problem arises... I know this is a very typical
attitude in some Linux forums, but because of Nokia's hidden presence, I
think Maemo's something different, more business or customer-oriented
attitude, and more friendly and helpful. At least I find this ML more
friendly and problem solver that the typical RTFM...

And now, I'll check the new
wiki<http://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card>about booting
from MMC and modify it in case it doesn't work to me...

By the way, I've recently learned how to build deb packages and have built a
package (that works perfectly for me) to download videos of YouTube to the
tablet, and another one to have a PGP secured Folder in my Desktop. Anybody
could give me a hint on where to start to become a Maemo developer and get
help to improve these packages?...

Salut and peace in the world ;-)
Sebas.

2008/11/23 sebastian maemo <sebastian.maemo@gmail.com>

>
> And now, I'll check the new wiki<http://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card>about booting from MMC and modify it in case it doesn't work to me...


I'd like to... but something doesn't work with wiki.maemo.org ... who's to
blame? ;-)

Salut,
Sebas.

Works for me, but they did mess up with the squid running on the wiki so in
Firefox, just press Ctrl-Shift-R when you get a blank page.

On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 6:23 AM, sebastian maemo
<sebastian.maemo@gmail.com>wrote:

> 2008/11/23 sebastian maemo <sebastian.maemo@gmail.com>
>
>>
>> And now, I'll check the new wiki<http://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card>about booting from MMC and modify it in case it doesn't work to me...
>
>
> I'd like to... but something doesn't work with wiki.maemo.org ... who's to
> blame? ;-)
>
> Salut,
> Sebas.
>
>
>
>

2008/11/23 Faheem Pervez <trippin1@gmail.com>

> Works for me, but they did mess up with the squid running on the wiki so in
> Firefox, just press Ctrl-Shift-R when you get a blank page.


Nope... it doesn't work for me... I can login OK but when I follow the link
to the page I want to edit I'm not logged anymore... I've sent an e-mail to
General Antilles (sic) to hope for solution...

Salut,
Sebas.

Hi Ryan:

Could you be so extremely kind as to tell me why I cannot edit wiki pages
any more?

By the way, my user login is 'sebas'... (just in case you need it).

Salut,
Sebas.

On Nov 23, 2008, at 7:54 AM, sebastian maemo wrote:

> Hi Ryan:
>
> Could you be so extremely kind as to tell me why I cannot edit wiki
> pages any more?
>
> By the way, my user login is 'sebas'... (just in case you need it).


It's probably this bug: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3788

Editing anonymously over https shouldn't present a problem. . . .

--
Ryan Abel
Maemo Community Council chair

2008/11/23 Ryan Abel <rabelg5@gmail.com>

>
> It's probably this bug: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3788
>
> Editing anonymously over https shouldn't present a problem. . . .


Ok, thank you... I still cannot edit by my username, but after adding 's' to
'http' I am at least allowed to edit the wiki page...

Salut,
Sebas.

Hallo!

> ...and the Psion Series 5 and up, and the Agenda VR3, and probably
> many other cases...

As an owner of an Agenda VR I can assure you that that "thing" and my
N810 together with the community, Nokia, documentation, web presence,
build environement and every other aspect I can thing of are definitely
worlds apart! Don't even think about comparing them :-)

--
Gruß...
Tim

Hi,

ext Mark Haury wrote:
> As for reflashing, Chinook is still better than Diablo as far as
> stability and certain apps working properly. I've had my tablet long
> enough that it came with Bora, and there were compelling reasons to
> upgrade to Chinook. The final Chinook upgrade was a nightmare because
> the backup/restore didn't work and I had to reinstall everything from
> scratch. The only compelling reason to upgrade to Diablo thus far is
> the "flashless" updates, except people have been reporting similar
> breakage with those...

Personally I think the main advantage of Diablo are the performance
improvements in Browser. It depends a bit on which pages you visit,
but for some pages (having transparent overlays, especially when
zoomed), the browser is significantly faster.


- Eero