Bluetooth PAN on N900

Hi list,

what is the current way to enable Bluetooth PAN networking on the N900?

Removing "network" from main.conf?
(http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_Unsupported_Bluetooth_profiles#PAN)

Or installing maemo-pan? (Where is it?)
(http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PAN)

Using DUN instead? (I didn't try, don't know how to set up connection)
(http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_DUN)

Installing maemo-pc-connectivity?
(http://intr.overt.org/blog/?p=94 -> Comment 6)

A combination? Something completely different?

Regards,
André

Hi Andre,

For me, the best Bluetooth PAN page is http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PAN

If http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_Unsupported_Bluetooth_profiles#PAN
contains some more up-to-date information, it should be integrated into
the "Bluetooth PAN" page.

And if Maemo PC Connectivity provides an easier/better way to do it,
then it also should be documented in "Bluetooth PAN".

Looking at the pages, "Bluetooth PAN" says at the top that it's
specifically for using the device as a PAN client to use another
device's network connection, which the "Unsupported bluetooth profiles"
page mentions bluetoothd, which is the server-side of the equation.

So if you want to connect your N900 to another device to get on the
internet, then follow "Bluetoth PAN", and if you want to allow other
devices to share your N900's network connection, enable bluetoothd and
add network to main.conf (I think).

Cheers,
Dave.

André Hänsel wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> what is the current way to enable Bluetooth PAN networking on the N900?
>
> Removing "network" from main.conf?
> (http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_Unsupported_Bluetooth_profiles#PAN)
>
> Or installing maemo-pan? (Where is it?)
> (http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PAN)
>
> Using DUN instead? (I didn't try, don't know how to set up connection)
> (http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_DUN)
>
> Installing maemo-pc-connectivity?
> (http://intr.overt.org/blog/?p=94 -> Comment 6)
>
> A combination? Something completely different?
>
> Regards,
> André
>


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Dave Neary schrieb:

> For me, the best Bluetooth PAN page is
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PAN

You mean, that is the place where the correct information should be?
Certainly, I agree, but that doesn't help me setting up Bluetooth PAN. ;)

There it says, one must install the maemo-pan package, but there is no
maemo-pan package, neither in the preinstalled catalogs nor in the three
extra repositories.

Regards,
André


> André Hänsel wrote:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > what is the current way to enable Bluetooth PAN networking on the
> N900?
> >
> > Removing "network" from main.conf?
> > (http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_Unsupported_Bluetooth_profiles#PAN)
> >
> > Or installing maemo-pan? (Where is it?)
> > (http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PAN)
> >
> > Using DUN instead? (I didn't try, don't know how to set up
> connection)
> > (http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_DUN)
> >
> > Installing maemo-pc-connectivity?
> > (http://intr.overt.org/blog/?p=94 -> Comment 6)
> >
> > A combination? Something completely different?
> >
> > Regards,
> > André
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > maemo-users@maemo.org
> > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
> >
>
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Am Donnerstag, den 08.04.2010, 16:06 +0200 schrieb André Hänsel:
> Dave Neary schrieb:
>
> > For me, the best Bluetooth PAN page is
> > http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PAN
>
> You mean, that is the place where the correct information should be?
> Certainly, I agree, but that doesn't help me setting up Bluetooth PAN. ;)
>
> There it says, one must install the maemo-pan package, but there is no
> maemo-pan package, neither in the preinstalled catalogs nor in the three
> extra repositories.

I think maemo-pan is in the Maemo4 (diablo) repository. I don't
recommend using that repository on Maemo5 (fremantle) though if you
don't exactly know what you are doing.

andre
--
Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster)

Hi,

Andre Klapper wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 08.04.2010, 16:06 +0200 schrieb André Hänsel:
>> Dave Neary schrieb:
>>
>>> For me, the best Bluetooth PAN page is
>>> http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PAN
>> You mean, that is the place where the correct information should be?
>> Certainly, I agree, but that doesn't help me setting up Bluetooth PAN. ;)
>>
>> There it says, one must install the maemo-pan package, but there is no
>> maemo-pan package, neither in the preinstalled catalogs nor in the three
>> extra repositories.
>
> I think maemo-pan is in the Maemo4 (diablo) repository. I don't
> recommend using that repository on Maemo5 (fremantle) though if you
> don't exactly know what you are doing.

OK then - what is PAN? How can I share a network connection from my
cellular device (N900 or other) with other devices over Bluetooth from
Maemo 4 and Maemo 5 devices?

Let's make the page better, if it has incorrect information on it. I'm
no bluetooth expert, but I know how to click an "Edit page" link.

Cheers,
Dave.

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В Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:38:57 +0200
Dave Neary <dneary@maemo.org> пишет:

> Hi,
>
> Andre Klapper wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, den 08.04.2010, 16:06 +0200 schrieb André Hänsel:
> >> Dave Neary schrieb:
> >>
> >>> For me, the best Bluetooth PAN page is
> >>> http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PAN
> >> You mean, that is the place where the correct information should
> >> be? Certainly, I agree, but that doesn't help me setting up
> >> Bluetooth PAN. ;)
> >>
> >> There it says, one must install the maemo-pan package, but there
> >> is no maemo-pan package, neither in the preinstalled catalogs nor
> >> in the three extra repositories.
> >
> > I think maemo-pan is in the Maemo4 (diablo) repository. I don't
> > recommend using that repository on Maemo5 (fremantle) though if you
> > don't exactly know what you are doing.
>
> OK then - what is PAN? How can I share a network connection from my
> cellular device (N900 or other) with other devices over Bluetooth from
> Maemo 4 and Maemo 5 devices?
>

When stumbled upon this topic, I did some small investigation but fall
back to use DUN after all.

Enabling "network" is enough to get your PC connect over BT to N900
using PAN (and well, bluetooth manager on my Linux box reports
success). But to use that connection, it is not enough. N900 should set
up PAN network interface, and enable dhcp over that, as well as IP
forwarding. In that case, network connection will be shared over PAN
and (potentially) it will be possible for several devices to "tether"
that way, using N900 as BT gateway.

Practically, it is not apparent to establish, and BT bandwidth is
limited anyway, so for similar usage profile WIFI hotspot mode serves
better; and BT DUN (using package available for Fremantle) in usual
tethering case.


hth

-Vitaly
> Let's make the page better, if it has incorrect information on it. I'm
> no bluetooth expert, but I know how to click an "Edit page" link.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
>

>
> В Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:38:57 +0200
> Dave Neary <dneary@maemo.org> пишет:
[...]
> Enabling "network" is enough to get your PC connect over BT to N900
> using PAN (and well, bluetooth manager on my Linux box reports
> success). But to use that connection, it is not enough. N900 should set
> up PAN network interface, and enable dhcp over that, as well as IP
> forwarding. In that case, network connection will be shared over PAN
> and (potentially) it will be possible for several devices to "tether"
> that way, using N900 as BT gateway.
>
> Practically, it is not apparent to establish, and BT bandwidth is
> limited anyway, so for similar usage profile WIFI hotspot mode serves
> better; and BT DUN (using package available for Fremantle) in usual
> tethering case.

as writen here MeeGo for Netbooks is using ofono and this only supports PAN at the moment. No adhoc WiFi and no DUN. So I'm very interested in using my Netbook via N900's PAN to go online.

Best regards Uwe