N9 device seeding activity

Well, probably not "perfectly" How many N9s do you think we should set
aside as prizes? Please let us know if you have a recommendation for who
should do it this year.

Rob

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Oh no, it can be perfectly done without me. :)
>
> I'm just curious if there's already one who would like to do it...
>
> --
>
> Von meinem Nokia N950 gesendet
>
> robert bauer schrieb am 20.04.12 14:24:
> Don't think I forgot you said you might be too busy ;-).
>
> But I did say I would ask again (no pressure). If you can't do it again,
> we'll find one or two persons to step in. And seriously, if you think it
> can't be done without you, let's discuss that thoroughly. Anything worth
> doing is worth doing well.
>
> Rob
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah@googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> Who will organise this years coding competition?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Von meinem Nokia N950 gesendet
>>
>> robert bauer schrieb am 20.04.12 14:02:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Timo Härkönen <timop.harkonen@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> 20. huhtikuuta 2012 2.14 robert bauer <nybauer@gmail.com> kirjoitti:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Quim Gil <quim.gil@nokia.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's say we could have a nice amount of N9s (*) for a maemo.orgcentered device seeding activity.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll use them at least for this year's Coding Competition. I hope
>>>> you remember this activity. We already started thinking about including Qt
>>>> in the competition this year. Please review the last few pages of this
>>>> thread <http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=71561>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm just left pondering what this device seeding program has to do with
>>> the competition? Especially if the intention is to get the devices in the
>>> hands of developers before the summer vacation period?
>>>
>>> and for the record I'm not going to apply for a device since I already
>>> got those from elsewhere. But I am interested in seeing them landing in
>>> cabable hands.
>>>
>>> Also I'd explicitly add open source development as a requirement for
>>> getting one.
>>>
>>>
>> Last year, N9s were given out as prizes to the winning app developers.
>> There was some uncertainty where we would source those this year and so now
>> we have a source. I don't know that there is anything special about when
>> the devices are given out, but yes the summer is a prime period for
>> activity. It's been noted that people don't always use the device for the
>> community as promised and so the competition has the advantage that it
>> really does push apps. Also, I wonder if there are more devices available
>> than we need for the competition so we can simply reserve some devices for
>> the competition.
>>
>> I agree with open source requirement, actually I had assumed it would be
>> one of council's criteria for selecting anyway.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Last time we had 9 N9s, and 9 or 10 N900s. Plus some Intel MeeGo devices
which weren't announced as prizes and went to developers who already were
able to show something.

--

Von meinem Nokia N950 gesendet

robert bauer schrieb am 20.04.12 15:07:
Well, probably not "perfectly" How many N9s do you think we should set
aside as prizes? Please let us know if you have a recommendation for who
should do it this year.

Rob

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Oh no, it can be perfectly done without me. :)
>
> I'm just curious if there's already one who would like to do it...
>
> --
>
> Von meinem Nokia N950 gesendet
>
> robert bauer schrieb am 20.04.12 14:24:
> Don't think I forgot you said you might be too busy ;-).
>
> But I did say I would ask again (no pressure). If you can't do it again,
> we'll find one or two persons to step in. And seriously, if you think it
> can't be done without you, let's discuss that thoroughly. Anything worth
> doing is worth doing well.
>
> Rob
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah@googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> Who will organise this years coding competition?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Von meinem Nokia N950 gesendet
>>
>> robert bauer schrieb am 20.04.12 14:02:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Timo Härkönen <timop.harkonen@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> 20. huhtikuuta 2012 2.14 robert bauer <nybauer@gmail.com> kirjoitti:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Quim Gil <quim.gil@nokia.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's say we could have a nice amount of N9s (*) for a maemo.orgcentered device seeding activity.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll use them at least for this year's Coding Competition. I hope
>>>> you remember this activity. We already started thinking about including Qt
>>>> in the competition this year. Please review the last few pages of this
>>>> thread <http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=71561>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm just left pondering what this device seeding program has to do with
>>> the competition? Especially if the intention is to get the devices in the
>>> hands of developers before the summer vacation period?
>>>
>>> and for the record I'm not going to apply for a device since I already
>>> got those from elsewhere. But I am interested in seeing them landing in
>>> cabable hands.
>>>
>>> Also I'd explicitly add open source development as a requirement for
>>> getting one.
>>>
>>>
>> Last year, N9s were given out as prizes to the winning app developers.
>> There was some uncertainty where we would source those this year and so now
>> we have a source. I don't know that there is anything special about when
>> the devices are given out, but yes the summer is a prime period for
>> activity. It's been noted that people don't always use the device for the
>> community as promised and so the competition has the advantage that it
>> really does push apps. Also, I wonder if there are more devices available
>> than we need for the competition so we can simply reserve some devices for
>> the competition.
>>
>> I agree with open source requirement, actually I had assumed it would be
>> one of council's criteria for selecting anyway.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Haha, maybe we could use the N950 for the coding competition!

There would be lots and lots of submissions... ;)

I mean huuuuge amounts of submissions... Last chance to get a N950..


:P

--

Von meinem Nokia N950 gesendet

robert bauer schrieb am 20.04.12 15:07:
Well, probably not "perfectly" How many N9s do you think we should set
aside as prizes? Please let us know if you have a recommendation for who
should do it this year.

Rob

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Oh no, it can be perfectly done without me. :)
>
> I'm just curious if there's already one who would like to do it...
>
> --
>
> Von meinem Nokia N950 gesendet
>
> robert bauer schrieb am 20.04.12 14:24:
> Don't think I forgot you said you might be too busy ;-).
>
> But I did say I would ask again (no pressure). If you can't do it again,
> we'll find one or two persons to step in. And seriously, if you think it
> can't be done without you, let's discuss that thoroughly. Anything worth
> doing is worth doing well.
>
> Rob
>
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah@googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> Who will organise this years coding competition?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Von meinem Nokia N950 gesendet
>>
>> robert bauer schrieb am 20.04.12 14:02:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Timo Härkönen <timop.harkonen@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> 20. huhtikuuta 2012 2.14 robert bauer <nybauer@gmail.com> kirjoitti:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Quim Gil <quim.gil@nokia.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's say we could have a nice amount of N9s (*) for a maemo.orgcentered device seeding activity.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll use them at least for this year's Coding Competition. I hope
>>>> you remember this activity. We already started thinking about including Qt
>>>> in the competition this year. Please review the last few pages of this
>>>> thread <http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=71561>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm just left pondering what this device seeding program has to do with
>>> the competition? Especially if the intention is to get the devices in the
>>> hands of developers before the summer vacation period?
>>>
>>> and for the record I'm not going to apply for a device since I already
>>> got those from elsewhere. But I am interested in seeing them landing in
>>> cabable hands.
>>>
>>> Also I'd explicitly add open source development as a requirement for
>>> getting one.
>>>
>>>
>> Last year, N9s were given out as prizes to the winning app developers.
>> There was some uncertainty where we would source those this year and so now
>> we have a source. I don't know that there is anything special about when
>> the devices are given out, but yes the summer is a prime period for
>> activity. It's been noted that people don't always use the device for the
>> community as promised and so the competition has the advantage that it
>> really does push apps. Also, I wonder if there are more devices available
>> than we need for the competition so we can simply reserve some devices for
>> the competition.
>>
>> I agree with open source requirement, actually I had assumed it would be
>> one of council's criteria for selecting anyway.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 08:32:24AM -0700, Quim Gil wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Let's say we could have a nice amount of N9s (*) for a maemo.org
> centered device seeding activity.

[snip]

> What do you think?

This is a great idea. I think it can be validated as a great idea
merely by looking at the response on this mailing list. This list
was quiet, now it is alive with interested developers working to
make Maemo better. I hope the plans go forward.

Regards,

Jeremiah

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Timo Härkönen <timop.harkonen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> If needed, a few devices could be invested in side activities related to
>>> these tracks:
>>>
>>> - Improvements in apps infra at maemo.org or the evolution of COBS /
>>> apps.formeego.org / etc.
>>>
>>> - Improvements in Qt 5 support in the N9.
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>
>
> A very good idea. I'd bet that no one in the community has any objections to
> this :)


True! I have to join that. This might very well be what maemo.org
needs to leap to the next generation and make sure progress and
evolution of the OS goes forward, even if only driven by the
community.

>
> I would emphasize past contributions like testing, applications written for
> maemo/meego, community activities, etc. when selecting the recipients (but
> not only the past). Basically pretty much the same way that the n950 devkit
> and rasbpi things were done having the candidate listing in the public, for
> example in maemo wiki. I'd ask the candidates to provide the following
> details: name, username, link to maemo.org profile, past contributions,
> current activities, plans with the device if selected. And naturally the
> task of choosing the recipients goes to the council.

+1.

-Sivan