Harmattan & Maemo Community

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil@nokia.com> wrote:

Some further comments now that I got the kid sleeping ;-)

> More *personal* opinions:
>
> - I hope Harmattan is accepted as a target for the meego.com Community OBS
> and apps.meego.com. This was discussed back at the time and is still the
> default assumption afaik but the final decision relies on the Community
> Office or the TSG, so basically Dawn or Imad have the last word.

Even if this failed it's not the end of the world, as long as there is
an OBS someone is paying for. You need to upload different files
anyway (.tar.gz and dsc for deb, .tar.gz and .spec for harmattan).

One very interesting angle is to use meego handset arm target to build
meego rpm's normally, and then just run those rpm's in harmattan. I
don't see why most apps wouldn't work with that setup; we just need to
be able to install rpm's on the debian based system (which is not as
hard as people think, as soon as we get this stuff in public and can
skip bureaucracy and pathologically risk-averse decision making ;-).
This will allow us to reside entirely in meego infrastructure, with
some limitations to what we can do (dependecies, basically).

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Ville M. Vainio <vivainio@gmail.com> wrote:

> an OBS someone is paying for. You need to upload different files
> anyway (.tar.gz and dsc for deb, .tar.gz and .spec for harmattan).

.. and lest I managed to confuse someone, I mean .tar.gz and .spec for
Real MeeGo.

Hi,

Sivan Greenberg wrote:
> Does this mean that Harmattan is all open source apart for the closed
> UI ? If this is the only closed source part, then I don't see a
> problem in assimilating it in maemo.org.

You say that as if that were our decision to make.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Hey,

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Dave Neary <dneary@maemo.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sivan Greenberg wrote:
>> Does this mean that Harmattan is all open source apart for the closed
>> UI  ? If this is the only closed source part, then I don't see a
>> problem in assimilating it in maemo.org.
>
> You say that as if that were our decision to make.

Ofcourse not, I'm just worried about the signal/noise ratio burdened
on the Maemo infrastructure (especially TMO) once newer closed parts
or new closed versions of previously open parts will be introduced. I
was merely asking :)


I apologize if this is how it sounded.


Cheers,

-Sivan

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:02 AM, Sivan Greenberg <sivan@omniqueue.com> wrote:

> Hey,
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Dave Neary <dneary@maemo.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sivan Greenberg wrote:
> >> Does this mean that Harmattan is all open source apart for the closed
> >> UI ? If this is the only closed source part, then I don't see a
> >> problem in assimilating it in maemo.org.
> >
> > You say that as if that were our decision to make.
>
> Ofcourse not, I'm just worried about the signal/noise ratio burdened
> on the Maemo infrastructure (especially TMO) once newer closed parts
> or new closed versions of previously open parts will be introduced. I
> was merely asking :)
>
>
> I apologize if this is how it sounded.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
I don't know what you mean by "assimilating" but there will be a problem if
the Harmattan UI is closed. I don't mean to say that Harmattan won't be
discussed in t.m.o. albeit with low S/N ratio.