N900 battery duration
Re: N900 battery duration
Re: N900 battery duration
2009-10-17 11:58 UTC
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Andrea Grandi <a.grandi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2009/10/16 Andrew Flegg <andrew@bleb.org>:
>> What widgets do you have on the desktop? RSS? Facebook? Foreca?
>
> I've Facebook, Calendar, Forecast and two shortcut to start Phone and Contacts.
Try removing the third party ones: facebook and forecast.
--
Felipe Contreras
> Hi,
>
> 2009/10/16 Andrew Flegg <andrew@bleb.org>:
>> What widgets do you have on the desktop? RSS? Facebook? Foreca?
>
> I've Facebook, Calendar, Forecast and two shortcut to start Phone and Contacts.
Try removing the third party ones: facebook and forecast.
--
Felipe Contreras
Re: N900 battery duration
2009-10-17 14:46 UTC
Hi,
2009/10/17 Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Andrea Grandi <a.grandi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2009/10/16 Andrew Flegg <andrew@bleb.org>:
>>> What widgets do you have on the desktop? RSS? Facebook? Foreca?
>>
>> I've Facebook, Calendar, Forecast and two shortcut to start Phone and Contacts.
>
> Try removing the third party ones: facebook and forecast.
This test was done with these situation: connected to home wifi,
facebook ON, forecast ON, pressing sometimes the main menu to keep the
light always ON ---> http://pastebin.ca/1625155
This other test is the same as previous but without facebook and
forecast: http://pastebin.ca/1625163
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Andrea Grandi
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2009/10/17 Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Andrea Grandi <a.grandi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2009/10/16 Andrew Flegg <andrew@bleb.org>:
>>> What widgets do you have on the desktop? RSS? Facebook? Foreca?
>>
>> I've Facebook, Calendar, Forecast and two shortcut to start Phone and Contacts.
>
> Try removing the third party ones: facebook and forecast.
This test was done with these situation: connected to home wifi,
facebook ON, forecast ON, pressing sometimes the main menu to keep the
light always ON ---> http://pastebin.ca/1625155
This other test is the same as previous but without facebook and
forecast: http://pastebin.ca/1625163
--
Andrea Grandi
email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com
website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc
Re: N900 battery duration
2009-10-20 14:50 UTC
Hi,
ext Andrea Grandi wrote:
> 2009/10/17 Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>:
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Andrea Grandi <a.grandi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 2009/10/16 Andrew Flegg <andrew@bleb.org>:
>>>> What widgets do you have on the desktop? RSS? Facebook? Foreca?
>>> I've Facebook, Calendar, Forecast and two shortcut to start Phone and Contacts.
>> Try removing the third party ones: facebook and forecast.
>
> This test was done with these situation: connected to home wifi,
> facebook ON, forecast ON, pressing sometimes the main menu to keep the
> light always ON ---> http://pastebin.ca/1625155
>
> This other test is the same as previous but without facebook and
> forecast: http://pastebin.ca/1625163
Do you have RD-mode or RD-flags enabled?
Are you charging your device until the led shows green?
- Eero
ext Andrea Grandi wrote:
> 2009/10/17 Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>:
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Andrea Grandi <a.grandi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 2009/10/16 Andrew Flegg <andrew@bleb.org>:
>>>> What widgets do you have on the desktop? RSS? Facebook? Foreca?
>>> I've Facebook, Calendar, Forecast and two shortcut to start Phone and Contacts.
>> Try removing the third party ones: facebook and forecast.
>
> This test was done with these situation: connected to home wifi,
> facebook ON, forecast ON, pressing sometimes the main menu to keep the
> light always ON ---> http://pastebin.ca/1625155
>
> This other test is the same as previous but without facebook and
> forecast: http://pastebin.ca/1625163
Do you have RD-mode or RD-flags enabled?
Are you charging your device until the led shows green?
- Eero
Re: N900 battery duration
2009-10-20 14:55 UTC
Hi,
2009/10/20 Eero Tamminen <eero.tamminen@nokia.com>:
> Do you have RD-mode or RD-flags enabled?
how can I know it? I just installed the utility to become root (sudo gainroot)
> Are you charging your device until the led shows green?
yes
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2009/10/20 Eero Tamminen <eero.tamminen@nokia.com>:
> Do you have RD-mode or RD-flags enabled?
how can I know it? I just installed the utility to become root (sudo gainroot)
> Are you charging your device until the led shows green?
yes
--
Andrea Grandi
email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com
website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc
Re: N900 battery duration
Re: N900 battery duration
2009-10-20 15:01 UTC
2009/10/20 Andrea Grandi <a.grandi@gmail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> 2009/10/20 Eero Tamminen <eero.tamminen@nokia.com>:
>> Do you have RD-mode or RD-flags enabled?
>
> how can I know it? I just installed the utility to become root (sudo gainroot)
>
You know it, because you've got to enable it via flasher :)
So if you don't know, probably you didn't enable it :P
anidel
> Hi,
>
> 2009/10/20 Eero Tamminen <eero.tamminen@nokia.com>:
>> Do you have RD-mode or RD-flags enabled?
>
> how can I know it? I just installed the utility to become root (sudo gainroot)
>
You know it, because you've got to enable it via flasher :)
So if you don't know, probably you didn't enable it :P
anidel
Re: N900 battery duration
2009-10-20 15:05 UTC
Hi,
2009/10/20 Eero Tamminen <eero.tamminen@nokia.com>:
> Hi,
>
> ext Andrea Grandi wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you have RD-mode or RD-flags enabled?
>>
>> how can I know it? I just installed the utility to become root (sudo
>> gainroot)
>
> cal-tool --get-rd-mode --get-rd-flags
it replies: disabled
by the way: I've seen that connecting to Simyo UMTS/HSDPA (which is
ALWAYS in roaming, since it's a virtual operator and it uses Orange
network) it takes a lot of battery. If I keep connected to my home's
wifi, battery last much much more.
I'll be able to test with Italian 3Hg carrier once I'll come back in
Italy... but this will be for Christmas holiday :\
--
Andrea Grandi
email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com
website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc
2009/10/20 Eero Tamminen <eero.tamminen@nokia.com>:
> Hi,
>
> ext Andrea Grandi wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you have RD-mode or RD-flags enabled?
>>
>> how can I know it? I just installed the utility to become root (sudo
>> gainroot)
>
> cal-tool --get-rd-mode --get-rd-flags
it replies: disabled
by the way: I've seen that connecting to Simyo UMTS/HSDPA (which is
ALWAYS in roaming, since it's a virtual operator and it uses Orange
network) it takes a lot of battery. If I keep connected to my home's
wifi, battery last much much more.
I'll be able to test with Italian 3Hg carrier once I'll come back in
Italy... but this will be for Christmas holiday :\
--
Andrea Grandi
email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com
website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc
Re: N900 battery duration
2009-10-20 15:51 UTC
Hi,
ext Andrea Grandi wrote:
>>>> Do you have RD-mode or RD-flags enabled?
>>> how can I know it? I just installed the utility to become root (sudo
>>> gainroot)
>> cal-tool --get-rd-mode --get-rd-flags
>
> it replies: disabled
>
> by the way: I've seen that connecting to Simyo UMTS/HSDPA (which is
> ALWAYS in roaming, since it's a virtual operator and it uses Orange
> network) it takes a lot of battery. If I keep connected to my home's
> wifi, battery last much much more.
>
> I'll be able to test with Italian 3Hg carrier once I'll come back in
> Italy... but this will be for Christmas holiday :\
Phone side needs much longer idle network traffic periods than WLAN,
to be able to power down. It's best if you can track the network
traffic to find out whether something causes it to be always up
(some process in the device[1], traffic in the phone network).
- Eero
[1] This could help, the Debian package builds fine for the device:
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/nethogs
ext Andrea Grandi wrote:
>>>> Do you have RD-mode or RD-flags enabled?
>>> how can I know it? I just installed the utility to become root (sudo
>>> gainroot)
>> cal-tool --get-rd-mode --get-rd-flags
>
> it replies: disabled
>
> by the way: I've seen that connecting to Simyo UMTS/HSDPA (which is
> ALWAYS in roaming, since it's a virtual operator and it uses Orange
> network) it takes a lot of battery. If I keep connected to my home's
> wifi, battery last much much more.
>
> I'll be able to test with Italian 3Hg carrier once I'll come back in
> Italy... but this will be for Christmas holiday :\
Phone side needs much longer idle network traffic periods than WLAN,
to be able to power down. It's best if you can track the network
traffic to find out whether something causes it to be always up
(some process in the device[1], traffic in the phone network).
- Eero
[1] This could help, the Debian package builds fine for the device:
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/nethogs
Re: N900 battery duration
2009-10-25 11:45 UTC
Andrew Flegg wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:34, Tuomas Kulve <tuomas@kulve.fi> wrote:
>> This is now run on a 41-10 release without SIM, without WLAN, without
>> charger, with only ogg-support and sshd installed (default widgets on
>> the desktop), and display blanked via the lock button:
>>
>> C4 | 99.5% | 2297.0ms |
>
> Bet it'll last for *aaaages* :-)
93.75 hours.
I'm not going to repeat that test but based on my other tests, I would
guess that it wouldn't fluctuate more than a few hours.
--
Tuomas
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:34, Tuomas Kulve <tuomas@kulve.fi> wrote:
>> This is now run on a 41-10 release without SIM, without WLAN, without
>> charger, with only ogg-support and sshd installed (default widgets on
>> the desktop), and display blanked via the lock button:
>>
>> C4 | 99.5% | 2297.0ms |
>
> Bet it'll last for *aaaages* :-)
93.75 hours.
I'm not going to repeat that test but based on my other tests, I would
guess that it wouldn't fluctuate more than a few hours.
--
Tuomas
> Anyway, here is the result of powertop execution on my N900:
> http://pastebin.ca/1624111
In the PID activity list there are quite many "skyhost" prosesses, some
of which are quite active. Those may also keep the WLAN busy as the
wl12xx process is very active as well.
Skyhost seems to be a part of skype. Try disabling the Skype login and
see what the powertop says after that?
--
Tuomas