N900 battery duration
Re: powertop (was: N900 battery duration)
Re: powertop
2009-10-16 18:09 UTC
Marius Gedminas wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 06:44:47PM +0300, Tuomas Kulve wrote:
>> Andrea Grandi wrote:
>>> # powertop
>>> Powertop 1.13.3
>>> status: Unknown job: pmtrackerdaemon
>>> Mounting debugfs...FAILED
>> I get the same.
>>
>> Any idea what's that about?
>
> I'm just wondering if there's a correlation with firmware version.
>
> Powertop works for me. OSSO_VERSION='RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-10_PR_TRUE'
Control panel applet says "1.2009.41-10" on my device.
--
Tuomas
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 06:44:47PM +0300, Tuomas Kulve wrote:
>> Andrea Grandi wrote:
>>> # powertop
>>> Powertop 1.13.3
>>> status: Unknown job: pmtrackerdaemon
>>> Mounting debugfs...FAILED
>> I get the same.
>>
>> Any idea what's that about?
>
> I'm just wondering if there's a correlation with firmware version.
>
> Powertop works for me. OSSO_VERSION='RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-10_PR_TRUE'
Control panel applet says "1.2009.41-10" on my device.
--
Tuomas
Re: N900 battery duration
2009-10-16 18:56 UTC
Hi Andrea,
I've been using the N900 since last Saturday as my main mobile phone and
messaging device and for some light browsing and blog reading. I use the
"always on" Internet connection option and while I'm in the office the
N900 frequently switches between Wifi and Edge (no 3G here in the middle
of nowhere). I also installed quite a few apps and I use all the virtual
desktops. So far the battery has usually lasted between a full day and
one and a half days. Compared to what I've seen some of my friends
getting out of their iPhone batteries and what I've read in the Palm Pre
reviews - since the 3GS and the Pre use the same CPU - I think getting
about thirty hours out of the battery is not too bad. Much less with
moderate usage looks like a problem with the battery to me.
Cheers,
Kai
Am Freitag, den 16.10.2009, 10:48 +0200 schrieb Andrea Grandi:
> Hi all,
>
> after some days using the N900 (with already lot of charge/discharge
> cicles) I'd like to compare my battery duration with other people.
>
> At least for me, battery doesn't last so much... for example one day I
> charged it at 10:30 and it lasted only until 18:30 without using GPS,
> fotocamera, wifi, bluetooth, ecc.... just 20 minutes connected in
> UMTS/HSDPA and the rest of the time keeping it in my pocket.
>
> I don't have any particular application installed... I only use one
> virtual desktop and the widget are: calendar, facebook, forecast.
> Nothing more.
>
> Another day the battery only lasted 6 hours... browsing a little more
> (30 minutes in total).
>
> Anyone else is experiencing the same problem?
>
> p.s: today I'm not going to use it to connect to internet, just using
> it as media player (I'm in the university library) listening it with
> my headset. I'm playing mp3 songs since 1 hour and the battery is
> still displayed as full. Not bad.
>
I've been using the N900 since last Saturday as my main mobile phone and
messaging device and for some light browsing and blog reading. I use the
"always on" Internet connection option and while I'm in the office the
N900 frequently switches between Wifi and Edge (no 3G here in the middle
of nowhere). I also installed quite a few apps and I use all the virtual
desktops. So far the battery has usually lasted between a full day and
one and a half days. Compared to what I've seen some of my friends
getting out of their iPhone batteries and what I've read in the Palm Pre
reviews - since the 3GS and the Pre use the same CPU - I think getting
about thirty hours out of the battery is not too bad. Much less with
moderate usage looks like a problem with the battery to me.
Cheers,
Kai
Am Freitag, den 16.10.2009, 10:48 +0200 schrieb Andrea Grandi:
> Hi all,
>
> after some days using the N900 (with already lot of charge/discharge
> cicles) I'd like to compare my battery duration with other people.
>
> At least for me, battery doesn't last so much... for example one day I
> charged it at 10:30 and it lasted only until 18:30 without using GPS,
> fotocamera, wifi, bluetooth, ecc.... just 20 minutes connected in
> UMTS/HSDPA and the rest of the time keeping it in my pocket.
>
> I don't have any particular application installed... I only use one
> virtual desktop and the widget are: calendar, facebook, forecast.
> Nothing more.
>
> Another day the battery only lasted 6 hours... browsing a little more
> (30 minutes in total).
>
> Anyone else is experiencing the same problem?
>
> p.s: today I'm not going to use it to connect to internet, just using
> it as media player (I'm in the university library) listening it with
> my headset. I'm playing mp3 songs since 1 hour and the battery is
> still displayed as full. Not bad.
>
Re: N900 battery duration
2009-10-16 19:15 UTC
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 19:56, Kai Thomsen <thomsenk@t-online.de> wrote:
>
> So far the battery has usually lasted between a full day and
> one and a half days.
What widgets do you have on the desktop? RSS? Facebook? Foreca?
Thanks in advance,
Andrew
--
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>
> So far the battery has usually lasted between a full day and
> one and a half days.
What widgets do you have on the desktop? RSS? Facebook? Foreca?
Thanks in advance,
Andrew
--
Andrew Flegg -- mailto:andrew@bleb.org | http://www.bleb.org/
Re: N900 battery duration
2009-10-16 19:18 UTC
Hi,
2009/10/16 Andrew Flegg <andrew@bleb.org>:
> What widgets do you have on the desktop? RSS? Facebook? Foreca?
I've Facebook, Calendar, Forecast and two shortcut to start Phone and Contacts.
p.s: about services, when I go online I register to: Skype, SIP number
and Gtalk.
> Thanks in advance,
thanks to you for the help :)
--
Andrea Grandi
email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com
website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc
2009/10/16 Andrew Flegg <andrew@bleb.org>:
> What widgets do you have on the desktop? RSS? Facebook? Foreca?
I've Facebook, Calendar, Forecast and two shortcut to start Phone and Contacts.
p.s: about services, when I go online I register to: Skype, SIP number
and Gtalk.
> Thanks in advance,
thanks to you for the help :)
--
Andrea Grandi
email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com
website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc
Re: N900 battery duration
2009-10-16 19:27 UTC
I have the calendar and Facebook widgets on the desktop. And since the
last reboot (yeah, there are still some stability issues ;-)) two days
ago the Email, Messaging, RSS, Phone, and Internet apps are open.
Cheers,
Kai
Am Freitag, den 16.10.2009, 20:15 +0100 schrieb Andrew Flegg:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 19:56, Kai Thomsen <thomsenk@t-online.de> wrote:
> >
> > So far the battery has usually lasted between a full day and
> > one and a half days.
>
> What widgets do you have on the desktop? RSS? Facebook? Foreca?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew
>
last reboot (yeah, there are still some stability issues ;-)) two days
ago the Email, Messaging, RSS, Phone, and Internet apps are open.
Cheers,
Kai
Am Freitag, den 16.10.2009, 20:15 +0100 schrieb Andrew Flegg:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 19:56, Kai Thomsen <thomsenk@t-online.de> wrote:
> >
> > So far the battery has usually lasted between a full day and
> > one and a half days.
>
> What widgets do you have on the desktop? RSS? Facebook? Foreca?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew
>
Re: powertop
2009-10-16 19:29 UTC
Simply re-run it again.
It then worked for me.
--
anidel
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2009/10/16 Tuomas Kulve <tuomas@kulve.fi>:
> Marius Gedminas wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 06:44:47PM +0300, Tuomas Kulve wrote:
>>> Andrea Grandi wrote:
>>>> # powertop
>>>> Powertop 1.13.3
>>>> status: Unknown job: pmtrackerdaemon
>>>> Mounting debugfs...FAILED
>>> I get the same.
>>>
>>> Any idea what's that about?
>>
>> I'm just wondering if there's a correlation with firmware version.
>>
>> Powertop works for me. OSSO_VERSION='RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-10_PR_TRUE'
>
> Control panel applet says "1.2009.41-10" on my device.
>
> --
> Tuomas
>
It then worked for me.
--
anidel
Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom
2009/10/16 Tuomas Kulve <tuomas@kulve.fi>:
> Marius Gedminas wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 06:44:47PM +0300, Tuomas Kulve wrote:
>>> Andrea Grandi wrote:
>>>> # powertop
>>>> Powertop 1.13.3
>>>> status: Unknown job: pmtrackerdaemon
>>>> Mounting debugfs...FAILED
>>> I get the same.
>>>
>>> Any idea what's that about?
>>
>> I'm just wondering if there's a correlation with firmware version.
>>
>> Powertop works for me. OSSO_VERSION='RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-10_PR_TRUE'
>
> Control panel applet says "1.2009.41-10" on my device.
>
> --
> Tuomas
>
Re: N900 battery duration
2009-10-16 19:33 UTC
Hmm, Skype and apps like that might suck quite a bit of battery,
depending on how chatty they might become in their idle states. Knowing
a bit about Skype from monitoring a large company network, especially
when it does not get a connection or an unreliable connection it tries
to connect to the next Supernode very often, at least once a minute.
Wireshark might help you to find out how "chatty" your N900 is...
If I have some time over the weekend, I could run some tests with
Wireshark and Skype/Foreca/Facebook and whatever else is usually running
on my N900 to see how often these apps actually send traffic in their
idle states.
Cheers,
Kai
Am Freitag, den 16.10.2009, 21:18 +0200 schrieb Andrea Grandi:
> Hi,
>
> 2009/10/16 Andrew Flegg <andrew@bleb.org>:
> > What widgets do you have on the desktop? RSS? Facebook? Foreca?
>
> I've Facebook, Calendar, Forecast and two shortcut to start Phone and Contacts.
>
> p.s: about services, when I go online I register to: Skype, SIP number
> and Gtalk.
>
> > Thanks in advance,
>
> thanks to you for the help :)
>
depending on how chatty they might become in their idle states. Knowing
a bit about Skype from monitoring a large company network, especially
when it does not get a connection or an unreliable connection it tries
to connect to the next Supernode very often, at least once a minute.
Wireshark might help you to find out how "chatty" your N900 is...
If I have some time over the weekend, I could run some tests with
Wireshark and Skype/Foreca/Facebook and whatever else is usually running
on my N900 to see how often these apps actually send traffic in their
idle states.
Cheers,
Kai
Am Freitag, den 16.10.2009, 21:18 +0200 schrieb Andrea Grandi:
> Hi,
>
> 2009/10/16 Andrew Flegg <andrew@bleb.org>:
> > What widgets do you have on the desktop? RSS? Facebook? Foreca?
>
> I've Facebook, Calendar, Forecast and two shortcut to start Phone and Contacts.
>
> p.s: about services, when I go online I register to: Skype, SIP number
> and Gtalk.
>
> > Thanks in advance,
>
> thanks to you for the help :)
>
Re: N900 battery duration
2009-10-16 19:58 UTC
Hi,
2009/10/16 Kai Thomsen <thomsenk@t-online.de>:
> Hmm, Skype and apps like that might suck quite a bit of battery,
> depending on how chatty they might become in their idle states. Knowing
> a bit about Skype from monitoring a large company network, especially
> when it does not get a connection or an unreliable connection it tries
> to connect to the next Supernode very often, at least once a minute.
> Wireshark might help you to find out how "chatty" your N900 is...
> If I have some time over the weekend, I could run some tests with
> Wireshark and Skype/Foreca/Facebook and whatever else is usually running
> on my N900 to see how often these apps actually send traffic in their
> idle states.
it would be great!
Anyway, here is the result of powertop execution on my N900:
http://pastebin.ca/1624111
I hope it can help you to understand what's happening :)
--
Andrea Grandi
email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com
website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc
2009/10/16 Kai Thomsen <thomsenk@t-online.de>:
> Hmm, Skype and apps like that might suck quite a bit of battery,
> depending on how chatty they might become in their idle states. Knowing
> a bit about Skype from monitoring a large company network, especially
> when it does not get a connection or an unreliable connection it tries
> to connect to the next Supernode very often, at least once a minute.
> Wireshark might help you to find out how "chatty" your N900 is...
> If I have some time over the weekend, I could run some tests with
> Wireshark and Skype/Foreca/Facebook and whatever else is usually running
> on my N900 to see how often these apps actually send traffic in their
> idle states.
it would be great!
Anyway, here is the result of powertop execution on my N900:
http://pastebin.ca/1624111
I hope it can help you to understand what's happening :)
--
Andrea Grandi
email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com
website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc
Re: N900 battery duration
2009-10-16 19:59 UTC
Hi
p.s: my N900 was connected to charger during this test... do I have to
disconnect it before doing the test?
2009/10/16 Andrea Grandi <a.grandi@gmail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> 2009/10/16 Kai Thomsen <thomsenk@t-online.de>:
>> Hmm, Skype and apps like that might suck quite a bit of battery,
>> depending on how chatty they might become in their idle states. Knowing
>> a bit about Skype from monitoring a large company network, especially
>> when it does not get a connection or an unreliable connection it tries
>> to connect to the next Supernode very often, at least once a minute.
>> Wireshark might help you to find out how "chatty" your N900 is...
>> If I have some time over the weekend, I could run some tests with
>> Wireshark and Skype/Foreca/Facebook and whatever else is usually running
>> on my N900 to see how often these apps actually send traffic in their
>> idle states.
>
> it would be great!
>
> Anyway, here is the result of powertop execution on my N900:
> http://pastebin.ca/1624111
>
> I hope it can help you to understand what's happening :)
>
> --
> Andrea Grandi
> email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com
> website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
> PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc
>
--
Andrea Grandi
email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com
website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc
p.s: my N900 was connected to charger during this test... do I have to
disconnect it before doing the test?
2009/10/16 Andrea Grandi <a.grandi@gmail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> 2009/10/16 Kai Thomsen <thomsenk@t-online.de>:
>> Hmm, Skype and apps like that might suck quite a bit of battery,
>> depending on how chatty they might become in their idle states. Knowing
>> a bit about Skype from monitoring a large company network, especially
>> when it does not get a connection or an unreliable connection it tries
>> to connect to the next Supernode very often, at least once a minute.
>> Wireshark might help you to find out how "chatty" your N900 is...
>> If I have some time over the weekend, I could run some tests with
>> Wireshark and Skype/Foreca/Facebook and whatever else is usually running
>> on my N900 to see how often these apps actually send traffic in their
>> idle states.
>
> it would be great!
>
> Anyway, here is the result of powertop execution on my N900:
> http://pastebin.ca/1624111
>
> I hope it can help you to understand what's happening :)
>
> --
> Andrea Grandi
> email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com
> website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
> PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc
>
--
Andrea Grandi
email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com
website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc
> Andrea Grandi wrote:
> > # powertop
> > Powertop 1.13.3
> > status: Unknown job: pmtrackerdaemon
> > Mounting debugfs...FAILED
>
> I get the same.
>
> Any idea what's that about?
I'm just wondering if there's a correlation with firmware version.
Powertop works for me. OSSO_VERSION='RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-10_PR_TRUE'
Marius Gedminas
--
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A: To prevent the sensible ones from going home.