You forgot to mention that there isn't a termcap install by default!
I agree with you. THe xterm is not very usable in its current
state. Try using emacs with that <Ctrl> window.
I have downloaded the old xterm (version 0.14) and recompiled it for
OS 2008 (I had to change some of the application names so it would not
collide with osso-xterm). It works, except that the <modifiers>
shortcuts just don't work (I have to check why).
But, when used with an external keyboard, it gives you a nice full
frame xterm that does not give any annoying messages when you press
some Ctrl keys. And it brings tabs back.
Sometime ago I was trying to find the xterm maintainer. Apparently
nobody is fully in charge of it. This is probably the reason it sucks
so badly. I suspect the person in charge (and please, if you, the
current maintainer reads this, it is not an attack on your skills as a
developer, or on your good will trying to improve xtemr) does not use
the xterm for anything other than executing shell commands
I have some patches that allow to send <Ctrl> special characters (such
as Ctrl-_) to the xterm (under OS 2007). I never got confirmation that
were committed. (they were badly needed to run emacs inside an xterm).
but it has not been changed since Sept of this year. The OS 2008 xterm
is not being hosted there (unless it is a branch).
Perhaps we need to start a project to create an maemo-xterm that is
intended to be used for more than just shell commands.
-dmg
James> All,
So far a large part of my problems are sitting around apps that
James> aren't yet ported to 2008. unzip, radio, mplayer, nmap, omweather
James> are a few that are in the repository but don't install. For now
James> there are some things I don't understand. I'm not trying to step on
James> toes. I just don't understand.
James> 1. Why did Nokia decide to change the industry defacto standard term
James> plugin and change it to component? tools > components shows you the
James> browser plugins.
James> 2. Why oh Why did someone take something as useful as xterm and
James> improve to the point of being almost unusable? I can't file bugs, as
James> it is apparently doing what it is supposed to. However, what it
James> does really drives me nuts. Maybe it's just me.
Why did they remove the useful tabs and replace it with multiple
James> windows? Given that there is no WM in the traditional sense you
James> can't resize and move between them easily. Tabs afforded the ability
James> to quickly manage multiple term windows (my record on the IT is 10
James> tabs.) Windows bring this to a grinding halt.
James> Why did they move the "button" bar to the bottom. Down there is
James> steals valuable screen real-estate from you.
James> Why is it that they split the adjust background color and font color
James> into two different locations in the settings gui?
James> Why did they increase the steps to use the ctrl key in the button bar?
James> Before to do cntrl-c it was 2 clicks one on cntrl one on c ... now
James> it's 5. cntrl - text box - c - ok - screen during this time the
James> keyboard closes 2 or 3 times. This can make vi a real PITA too.
James> Perhaps I'm just using the IT differently from most, I don't view it
James> as sterility a muti-media toy. To me it's my #1 tool for doing my
James> job, so perhaps I'm a bit sensitive. Sorry if I sound ranty I don't
James> mean to be but I am wondering why so may drastic changes were made to
James> a really good app.
James> James
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You forgot to mention that there isn't a termcap install by default!
I agree with you. THe xterm is not very usable in its current
state. Try using emacs with that <Ctrl> window.
I have downloaded the old xterm (version 0.14) and recompiled it for
OS 2008 (I had to change some of the application names so it would not
collide with osso-xterm). It works, except that the <modifiers>
shortcuts just don't work (I have to check why).
But, when used with an external keyboard, it gives you a nice full
frame xterm that does not give any annoying messages when you press
some Ctrl keys. And it brings tabs back.
Sometime ago I was trying to find the xterm maintainer. Apparently
nobody is fully in charge of it. This is probably the reason it sucks
so badly. I suspect the person in charge (and please, if you, the
current maintainer reads this, it is not an attack on your skills as a
developer, or on your good will trying to improve xtemr) does not use
the xterm for anything other than executing shell commands
I have some patches that allow to send <Ctrl> special characters (such
as Ctrl-_) to the xterm (under OS 2007). I never got confirmation that
were committed. (they were badly needed to run emacs inside an xterm).
The repository where I got it from is :
https://garage.maemo.org/svn/osso-xterm/osso-xterm/trunk
but it has not been changed since Sept of this year. The OS 2008 xterm
is not being hosted there (unless it is a branch).
Perhaps we need to start a project to create an maemo-xterm that is
intended to be used for more than just shell commands.
-dmg
James> All,
So far a large part of my problems are sitting around apps that
James> aren't yet ported to 2008. unzip, radio, mplayer, nmap, omweather
James> are a few that are in the repository but don't install. For now
James> there are some things I don't understand. I'm not trying to step on
James> toes. I just don't understand.
James> 1. Why did Nokia decide to change the industry defacto standard term
James> plugin and change it to component? tools > components shows you the
James> browser plugins.
James> 2. Why oh Why did someone take something as useful as xterm and
James> improve to the point of being almost unusable? I can't file bugs, as
James> it is apparently doing what it is supposed to. However, what it
James> does really drives me nuts. Maybe it's just me.
Why did they remove the useful tabs and replace it with multiple
James> windows? Given that there is no WM in the traditional sense you
James> can't resize and move between them easily. Tabs afforded the ability
James> to quickly manage multiple term windows (my record on the IT is 10
James> tabs.) Windows bring this to a grinding halt.
James> Why did they move the "button" bar to the bottom. Down there is
James> steals valuable screen real-estate from you.
James> Why is it that they split the adjust background color and font color
James> into two different locations in the settings gui?
James> Why did they increase the steps to use the ctrl key in the button bar?
James> Before to do cntrl-c it was 2 clicks one on cntrl one on c ... now
James> it's 5. cntrl - text box - c - ok - screen during this time the
James> keyboard closes 2 or 3 times. This can make vi a real PITA too.
James> Perhaps I'm just using the IT differently from most, I don't view it
James> as sterility a muti-media toy. To me it's my #1 tool for doing my
James> job, so perhaps I'm a bit sensitive. Sorry if I sound ranty I don't
James> mean to be but I am wondering why so may drastic changes were made to
James> a really good app.
James> James
--
--
Daniel M. German
http://turingmachine.org/
http://silvernegative.com/
dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca
replace (at) with @ and (dot) with .