Download of 10MB after internet connection
Download of 10MB after internet connection
Re: Download of 10MB after internet connection
Paul Hartman
2010/11/11 João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos <joaoolavo@gmail.com>:
> Hi there!
>
> Every time I connect my n900 to 3g, I notice through Personal Dataplan
> Monitor that it downloads almost 10 MB, even if I don't open browser or
> login into any messenger.
>
> I'm guessing that the it runs like a "apt-get update" to check new software
> updates.
>
> Does it happen with everyone? How to disable this repository check (without
> disabling the repositories)? Or is there any other issue?
>
> Thanks any advice!
You can change the auto-update interval:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Customizing_Maemo#Disabling_Auto_Updates_Check
> Hi there!
>
> Every time I connect my n900 to 3g, I notice through Personal Dataplan
> Monitor that it downloads almost 10 MB, even if I don't open browser or
> login into any messenger.
>
> I'm guessing that the it runs like a "apt-get update" to check new software
> updates.
>
> Does it happen with everyone? How to disable this repository check (without
> disabling the repositories)? Or is there any other issue?
>
> Thanks any advice!
You can change the auto-update interval:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Customizing_Maemo#Disabling_Auto_Updates_Check
Re: Download of 10MB after internet connection
Tanuva
Moin,
This behaviour is really annoying to me since I have 30 MB/month free
data. If about 20 MB of that get eaten by some apt-worker process
updating the db from time to time its fairly useless to me.
Practically disabling auto update checking isn't _the_ fix since I have
WLAN available most of the time but don't want to waste 3G traffic just
because something decides that it's time for updates now. Isn't there a
network-aware solution possible?
Marcel
Am 11.11.2010 22:24, schrieb Paul Hartman:
> 2010/11/11 João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos<joaoolavo@gmail.com>:
>> Hi there!
>>
>> Every time I connect my n900 to 3g, I notice through Personal Dataplan
>> Monitor that it downloads almost 10 MB, even if I don't open browser or
>> login into any messenger.
>>
>> I'm guessing that the it runs like a "apt-get update" to check new software
>> updates.
>>
>> Does it happen with everyone? How to disable this repository check (without
>> disabling the repositories)? Or is there any other issue?
>>
>> Thanks any advice!
>
> You can change the auto-update interval:
>
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Customizing_Maemo#Disabling_Auto_Updates_Check
>
This behaviour is really annoying to me since I have 30 MB/month free
data. If about 20 MB of that get eaten by some apt-worker process
updating the db from time to time its fairly useless to me.
Practically disabling auto update checking isn't _the_ fix since I have
WLAN available most of the time but don't want to waste 3G traffic just
because something decides that it's time for updates now. Isn't there a
network-aware solution possible?
Marcel
Am 11.11.2010 22:24, schrieb Paul Hartman:
> 2010/11/11 João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos<joaoolavo@gmail.com>:
>> Hi there!
>>
>> Every time I connect my n900 to 3g, I notice through Personal Dataplan
>> Monitor that it downloads almost 10 MB, even if I don't open browser or
>> login into any messenger.
>>
>> I'm guessing that the it runs like a "apt-get update" to check new software
>> updates.
>>
>> Does it happen with everyone? How to disable this repository check (without
>> disabling the repositories)? Or is there any other issue?
>>
>> Thanks any advice!
>
> You can change the auto-update interval:
>
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Customizing_Maemo#Disabling_Auto_Updates_Check
>
Re: Download of 10MB after internet connection
Paul Hartman
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Tanuva <tanuva@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Am 11.11.2010 22:24, schrieb Paul Hartman:
>>
>> 2010/11/11 João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos<joaoolavo@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Hi there!
>>>
>>> Every time I connect my n900 to 3g, I notice through Personal Dataplan
>>> Monitor that it downloads almost 10 MB, even if I don't open browser or
>>> login into any messenger.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing that the it runs like a "apt-get update" to check new
>>> software
>>> updates.
>>>
>>> Does it happen with everyone? How to disable this repository check
>>> (without
>>> disabling the repositories)? Or is there any other issue?
>>>
>>> Thanks any advice!
>>
>> You can change the auto-update interval:
>>
>> http://wiki.maemo.org/Customizing_Maemo#Disabling_Auto_Updates_Check
> Moin,
>
> This behaviour is really annoying to me since I have 30 MB/month free data.
> If about 20 MB of that get eaten by some apt-worker process updating the db
> from time to time its fairly useless to me.
>
> Practically disabling auto update checking isn't _the_ fix since I have WLAN
> available most of the time but don't want to waste 3G traffic just because
> something decides that it's time for updates now. Isn't there a
> network-aware solution possible?
>
> Marcel
Practically disabling it for 1000 years should be enough...
I guess if you delete(/rename) apt-worker it won't ever update again.
Application Manager probably won't work either but you can use FAPMAN
or just commandline apt-get tools.
Official Nokia answer about this kind of stuff seems to be that N900
is made for flat-rate data plan. I think it even says so on the box.
>
> Am 11.11.2010 22:24, schrieb Paul Hartman:
>>
>> 2010/11/11 João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos<joaoolavo@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Hi there!
>>>
>>> Every time I connect my n900 to 3g, I notice through Personal Dataplan
>>> Monitor that it downloads almost 10 MB, even if I don't open browser or
>>> login into any messenger.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing that the it runs like a "apt-get update" to check new
>>> software
>>> updates.
>>>
>>> Does it happen with everyone? How to disable this repository check
>>> (without
>>> disabling the repositories)? Or is there any other issue?
>>>
>>> Thanks any advice!
>>
>> You can change the auto-update interval:
>>
>> http://wiki.maemo.org/Customizing_Maemo#Disabling_Auto_Updates_Check
> Moin,
>
> This behaviour is really annoying to me since I have 30 MB/month free data.
> If about 20 MB of that get eaten by some apt-worker process updating the db
> from time to time its fairly useless to me.
>
> Practically disabling auto update checking isn't _the_ fix since I have WLAN
> available most of the time but don't want to waste 3G traffic just because
> something decides that it's time for updates now. Isn't there a
> network-aware solution possible?
>
> Marcel
Practically disabling it for 1000 years should be enough...
I guess if you delete(/rename) apt-worker it won't ever update again.
Application Manager probably won't work either but you can use FAPMAN
or just commandline apt-get tools.
Official Nokia answer about this kind of stuff seems to be that N900
is made for flat-rate data plan. I think it even says so on the box.
Re: Download of 10MB after internet connection
2010-11-15 21:00 UTC
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:53:30 -0600
Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+maemo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Official Nokia answer about this kind of stuff seems to be that N900
> is made for flat-rate data plan. I think it even says so on the box.
Unfortunately this is also an energy problem. In issue 23/2010 p176, the
german "c't magazin" published a report in which they modified a
Motorola Milestone to measure the actual energy consumption.
According to the report the download of a 2 Megabyte file took 80 mWh
on GSM, 20 mWh on UMTS and only 1.3 mWh on WLAN.
I don't have my box nearby so could perhaps anyone tell me wether it
says that you should not get out of reach of power outlets? ;)
Anyway, on my phone I also disabled automatic updates, but I rarely
remember to search for updates manually.
Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+maemo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Official Nokia answer about this kind of stuff seems to be that N900
> is made for flat-rate data plan. I think it even says so on the box.
Unfortunately this is also an energy problem. In issue 23/2010 p176, the
german "c't magazin" published a report in which they modified a
Motorola Milestone to measure the actual energy consumption.
According to the report the download of a 2 Megabyte file took 80 mWh
on GSM, 20 mWh on UMTS and only 1.3 mWh on WLAN.
I don't have my box nearby so could perhaps anyone tell me wether it
says that you should not get out of reach of power outlets? ;)
Anyway, on my phone I also disabled automatic updates, but I rarely
remember to search for updates manually.
RE: Download of 10MB after internet connection
2010-11-29 19:59 UTC
Sorry about being a little late to this discussion. If people are still interested, I have a few other thoughts to consider.
First, the assumption is that it is the checking for updates that is using up the bandwidth. Keep in mind that it could be other things, such as fMMS if you use it, email, Ovi Maps, or even some of the social networking tools like Pidgin, etc.
Whatever the cause, I always try to always disable automatic checking, and then do my checking manually when I am connected to WiFi, e.g. running
apt-get update and apt-get upgrade from the command prompt when I am connected to my home network.
I also don't automatically connect to my 3G network. I stay disconnected except when I need to connect.
Aldon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: maemo-users-bounces@maemo.org
> [mailto:maemo-users-bounces@maemo.org]On Behalf Of Tanuva
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:40 PM
> To: maemo-users@maemo.org
> Subject: Re: Download of 10MB after internet connection
>
>
> Moin,
>
> This behaviour is really annoying to me since I have 30 MB/month free
> data. If about 20 MB of that get eaten by some apt-worker process
> updating the db from time to time its fairly useless to me.
>
> Practically disabling auto update checking isn't _the_ fix since I have
> WLAN available most of the time but don't want to waste 3G traffic just
> because something decides that it's time for updates now. Isn't there a
> network-aware solution possible?
>
> Marcel
>
> Am 11.11.2010 22:24, schrieb Paul Hartman:
> > 2010/11/11 João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos<joaoolavo@gmail.com>:
> >> Hi there!
> >>
> >> Every time I connect my n900 to 3g, I notice through Personal Dataplan
> >> Monitor that it downloads almost 10 MB, even if I don't open browser or
> >> login into any messenger.
> >>
> >> I'm guessing that the it runs like a "apt-get update" to check
> new software
> >> updates.
> >>
> >> Does it happen with everyone? How to disable this repository
> check (without
> >> disabling the repositories)? Or is there any other issue?
> >>
> >> Thanks any advice!
> >
> > You can change the auto-update interval:
> >
> > http://wiki.maemo.org/Customizing_Maemo#Disabling_Auto_Updates_Check
> > _______________________________________________
> > maemo-users mailing list
> > maemo-users@maemo.org
> > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
> >
>
First, the assumption is that it is the checking for updates that is using up the bandwidth. Keep in mind that it could be other things, such as fMMS if you use it, email, Ovi Maps, or even some of the social networking tools like Pidgin, etc.
Whatever the cause, I always try to always disable automatic checking, and then do my checking manually when I am connected to WiFi, e.g. running
apt-get update and apt-get upgrade from the command prompt when I am connected to my home network.
I also don't automatically connect to my 3G network. I stay disconnected except when I need to connect.
Aldon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: maemo-users-bounces@maemo.org
> [mailto:maemo-users-bounces@maemo.org]On Behalf Of Tanuva
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:40 PM
> To: maemo-users@maemo.org
> Subject: Re: Download of 10MB after internet connection
>
>
> Moin,
>
> This behaviour is really annoying to me since I have 30 MB/month free
> data. If about 20 MB of that get eaten by some apt-worker process
> updating the db from time to time its fairly useless to me.
>
> Practically disabling auto update checking isn't _the_ fix since I have
> WLAN available most of the time but don't want to waste 3G traffic just
> because something decides that it's time for updates now. Isn't there a
> network-aware solution possible?
>
> Marcel
>
> Am 11.11.2010 22:24, schrieb Paul Hartman:
> > 2010/11/11 João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos<joaoolavo@gmail.com>:
> >> Hi there!
> >>
> >> Every time I connect my n900 to 3g, I notice through Personal Dataplan
> >> Monitor that it downloads almost 10 MB, even if I don't open browser or
> >> login into any messenger.
> >>
> >> I'm guessing that the it runs like a "apt-get update" to check
> new software
> >> updates.
> >>
> >> Does it happen with everyone? How to disable this repository
> check (without
> >> disabling the repositories)? Or is there any other issue?
> >>
> >> Thanks any advice!
> >
> > You can change the auto-update interval:
> >
> > http://wiki.maemo.org/Customizing_Maemo#Disabling_Auto_Updates_Check
> > _______________________________________________
> > maemo-users mailing list
> > maemo-users@maemo.org
> > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
> >
>
João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos
Every time I connect my n900 to 3g, I notice through Personal Dataplan
Monitor that it downloads almost 10 MB, even if I don't open browser or
login into any messenger.
I'm guessing that the it runs like a "apt-get update" to check new software
updates.
Does it happen with everyone? How to disable this repository check (without
disabling the repositories)? Or is there any other issue?
Thanks any advice!
--
João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos
Analista de Sistemas - Infraestrutura
joaoolavo.wordpress.com