Re: N810 RIP

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Ville M. Vainio <vivainio@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Jason Edgecombe
> <jason@rampaginggeek.com> wrote:
>
>> Would someone else please confirm that freemantle will NOT run on the
>> N800 or N810? This is the first that I have noticed this.
>
> It is implied that official support won't be there, but it could be
> made to work [...]
>
>> This early release comes with an invitation to build variants based on
>> Maemo 5 compatible with existing hardware like the N800 and N810.

An example of this is Mer:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer

It's still in development, and isn't ready for end-users yet, but
already allows you to play with some of the new kinetic scrolling
Hildon widgets and have fun building up a new Ubuntu & Maemo-inspired
platform.

Cheers,

Andrew

--
Andrew Flegg -- mailto:andrew@bleb.org | http://www.bleb.org/
Maemo Community Council member

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Flegg <andrew@bleb.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Ville M. Vainio <vivainio@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Jason Edgecombe
>> <jason@rampaginggeek.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Would someone else please confirm that freemantle will NOT run on the
>>> N800 or N810? This is the first that I have noticed this.
>>
>> It is implied that official support won't be there, but it could be
>> made to work [...]
>>
>>> This early release comes with an invitation to build variants based on
>>> Maemo 5 compatible with existing hardware like the N800 and N810.
>
> An example of this is Mer:
>
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Mer based on Ubuntu? from the wiki:

"Mer is a new Linux operating system, built upon a thin base of Ubuntu
Jaunty combined with the best open-source elements of Nokia's Maemo
platform."

Are those "open-source elements of Nokia's Maemo platform" already
coming from maemo 5?

Thanks in advance,
--
Anderson Lizardo
Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia (INdT)
Manaus - Brazil

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Anderson Lizardo
<anderson.lizardo@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Flegg <andrew@bleb.org> wrote:
>>
>> An example of this is Mer:
>
> Are those "open-source elements of Nokia's Maemo platform" already
> coming from maemo 5?

Yes. As I said, you can already play with the kinetic scrolling
goodness of Maemo 5 on an 770 or N8x0 today; through the newer version
of libhildon which is in Mer.

Cheers,

Andrew

--
Andrew Flegg -- mailto:andrew@bleb.org | http://www.bleb.org/
Maemo Community Council member

> Whoa! backup.
>
> Would someone else please confirm that freemantle will NOT run on the
> N800 or N810? This is the first that I have noticed this.

I don't have links handy, but as a lurker on planet and the dev-list I
know it's been mentioned several times. It's been a while since I've
looked at projected specs for the new device, but significantly
increased CPU horsepower, hardware 3D, and accellerometers all vaguely
ring bells for me, any of which could be deeply integrated into
Fremantle in such a way as to make backporting to older hardware a
significant amount of work.

I don't recall if there was talk about a Nokia-provided hacker edition
of Fremantle. I suspect there won't be, as it didn't gather a lot of
community development on the 770 and with projects like Mer creating a
community-supported build already, I suspect Nokia will focus on getting
them the resources they need to improve their offering.

Thanks,
Mike Lococo