[maemo-developers] [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help?
From: Murray Cumming murrayc at murrayc.comDate: Sat Oct 21 10:30:36 EEST 2006
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I'm not seeing any significant improvement to this situation, and Nokia's developers seem no less busy. So I'm still wasting time chasing incredibly minor patches. I still think a dedicated empowered community liason would fix this. As ever, I'm not complaining so much as trying to suggest how to make things perfect. On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 20:42 +0300, Carlos.Guerreiro at nokia.com wrote: > Hi Murray, > > > The Maemo community is alive, but not thriving as much as it > > could. This > > is because the Nokia developers are so busy and are often unable to > > respond to the simplest of requests for changes or information, and > > often unable to even acknowledge that contributions have been > > accepted. > > It's OK to be busy, so this isn't a personal attack on those > > developers. > > It's a suggestion for how to take the weight off them. > > Yes, the Maemo community could be more thriving, and insufficiently > open development is a key limitation. > Developers are busy working on the next release and don't have as much > time as they would wish to interact with the community. > Things will not always be like this, but at the moment that is the focus > we have. There are many ways to disappoint, slow developer community > development is one of them, but there's also the product. > > However, as Tommi pointed out, an equality important factor here is that > our product development processes and infrastructure are not yet fully > adapted to open platform development. Developing consumer electronics > products takes a lot more than platform software development. So those > processes take time to change. They touch a countless number of aspects > that constrain how development can be done, and often for good reasons, > even though from the outside one cannot see why. > To open up development in order to be more able to make good use of > the community's help, we are changing the way we do many things. As > Marius pointed out, a lot is actually happening there. It takes substantial > energy and time to make it happen. Some of this results in things you can see > (e.g.: bugzilla) but even more in things you cannot see, as it's about > fixing internal obstacles and bottlenecks and preparing the ground. > Things are moving, slowly but surely. > > > I think Nokia needs to assign a dedicated community liaison, full time > > or part time, while still demanding that all developers are involved > > with the community as much as possible. This person would maintain the > > web site, and help the community to maintain it by extracting > > information from Nokia. This person would also do simple patch and bug > > triage and apply obvious changes without bothering the developers with > > trivial stuff. > > > > It must be politically acceptable for this person to be under less > > pressure than a regular developer. If the community liaison > > ever has no > > problems to solve then that's good. > > > > If you need a more traditional job title, you could squeeze these > > responsibilities into "Documentation" or "Q & A". > > > > Nokia will get a lot of the advantages of open source if they don't do > > this, and the community will survive if they don't do this, > > but I think > > the extra salary would be a good investment to get even more valuable > > advantages. > > All of these tasks are important. Many of them are being done to the > extent possible by their available time by a number of hard working > people who (too modestly) "hide" under team at maemo.org. > They are more constrained by the current process and infrastructure > limitations than anybody else. > But it's the developers that are not involved enough. That's also > slowly improving. > > Having a full-time community liason is one option, and athought provoking > suggestion to be taken seriously. It's not the only option however. > > Definitely we could use more people. > You'll notice we are hiring, we currently have a couple of positions > open in nokia.com/careers, and we'll have more. > http://careers.nokia.com/nokia/hr/recrsyst.nsf/WB2RR/C33176FEA7866248C22571380056A811?OpenDocument&Lang=Global > > http://careers.nokia.com/nokia/hr/recrsyst.nsf/WB2RR/8A7C8A276B3D1F63C22570B3002683DB?OpenDocument&Lang=Global > > Best regards, > Carlos -- Murray Cumming murrayc at murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com
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