| X-Fade | Ok, to time to start the meeting? | 15:30 |
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| danielwilms | yep :) | 15:30 |
| sopi | yes | 15:30 |
| X-Fade | Tasks for this month can be found here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/June_09#Tasks | 15:30 |
| dneary | Hey hey | 15:31 |
| dneary | Andre just arrived here | 15:31 |
| X-Fade | Anybody wants to comment on DONE tasks? | 15:31 |
| sopi | nope | 15:31 |
| X-Fade | Ok, then let's move to the 'Must' tasks for June. | 15:32 |
| X-Fade | andre__: Do you have anything to add to 9.02-01 ? | 15:32 |
| NetBlade | X-Fade: andre__ is just firing up his computer | 15:32 |
| X-Fade | Ah, ok well then we'll pick NetBlade :) | 15:33 |
| andre__ | yeah. mom | 15:33 |
| X-Fade | How's the summit registration task coming along? | 15:33 |
| andre__ | X-Fade, not really progress with 9-02.01 since last meeting | 15:34 |
| NetBlade | X-Fade: I talked about it with Quim yesterday and now I got a clear view about things | 15:34 |
| X-Fade | andre__: You realise it is a 'Must' task right? | 15:34 |
| NetBlade | I think that I have things finished on the internal at the latest on tomorrow | 15:34 |
| NetBlade | X-Fade: and after that we can move the changes to live-server and test the mails there | 15:35 |
| X-Fade | andre__: If you are sure you are not going to make progress, chop it up in smaller parts. But at least try to get something done. | 15:35 |
| X-Fade | andre__: Having tasks standing without updates is something we need to avoid. | 15:36 |
| andre__ | Right | 15:36 |
| NetBlade | X-Fade: I'll test all the mail-issues on the internal, but at the moment I don't want to rely on everything working the same on the live server | 15:36 |
| sopi | andre__: would you need a hand with this? | 15:36 |
| andre__ | sopi, i would not say no :) | 15:36 |
| X-Fade | andre__: And cry for help if you can't get it done, please ;) | 15:36 |
| sopi | andre__: ok, let's chat about this offline then. | 15:36 |
| andre__ | sopi, sounds good | 15:37 |
| X-Fade | sopi: It would be great if you can help Andre. I know he is doing a lot of other good work. :) | 15:37 |
| X-Fade | andre__: And the 9.04-05 task? | 15:38 |
| sopi | X-Fade: okay. i finish my "should" task and will help Andre. | 15:38 |
| X-Fade | andre__: What is blocking progress there? | 15:38 |
| andre__ | 9.04-05: Started with it, see https://test.maemo.org/testzilla/ (no idea if that is a public URL though, please don't try to trigger mail :-P ) | 15:38 |
| X-Fade | andre__: Ok, what is needed to get this task done? | 15:39 |
| andre__ | more changes to the CSS, dropping stuff we don't need anymore and moving additional stuff (that's maemo.org *bugzilla* only) into a separate CSS file. started with it | 15:40 |
| X-Fade | andre__: Ok, if you need any help with CSS oddities, I can help you with that next week. | 15:40 |
| NetBlade | andre__: I'm also able to help with CSS-issues | 15:41 |
| andre__ | i think my css skills should be okay to do this - the current (old) bugzilla CSS files are just a bit... complex. | 15:41 |
| X-Fade | Let's get both these tasks done the month as they are 3 and 5 months old. | 15:41 |
| X-Fade | Which is way to long for sprints :) | 15:41 |
| andre__ | yepp. | 15:41 |
| andre__ | agree. | 15:42 |
| X-Fade | Ok, let's continue with NetBlade. | 15:42 |
| NetBlade | yep | 15:42 |
| X-Fade | Did you agree on a timeframe with Quim? | 15:42 |
| NetBlade | X-Fade: yes | 15:42 |
| NetBlade | Quim wants things to be there at the latest next week | 15:43 |
| X-Fade | Ok, good. I know he won't let you slip :) | 15:43 |
| NetBlade | and because quim is on a holiday next week, he asked me to just make sure that things work and then publish it | 15:43 |
| NetBlade | X-Fade: I need a bit of your time when moving things to the live server | 15:43 |
| X-Fade | Next up would be jeremiah. But he seems to be MIA? | 15:44 |
| X-Fade | NetBlade: Sure, no problem. I can do that. | 15:44 |
| NetBlade | X-Fade: so I contact you when I have things in the next phase | 15:44 |
| X-Fade | NetBlade: ok. | 15:44 |
| NetBlade | I'm also in amsterdam next weekend and also on monday, so maybe I could come to Tilburg | 15:44 |
| NetBlade | at some point | 15:45 |
| NetBlade | but that's another topic and we can discuss it later on | 15:45 |
| X-Fade | Hehe, well you are welcome. ;) | 15:45 |
| X-Fade | It seems that the only MUST task that is still left is mine. | 15:45 |
| X-Fade | I'm working non-stop on the package QA and promotion interface. | 15:45 |
| X-Fade | It is starting to work nicely and I expect to be testing internally this week. And some limited public(with some hardcore developers) testing near the end of the week. | 15:46 |
| X-Fade | I expect to finish this task during the next Sprint, as I said at the last meeting. | 15:47 |
| X-Fade | Now for the 'Should' tasks. | 15:48 |
| X-Fade | danielwilms: How is the SSO task going? | 15:48 |
| danielwilms | It's fine...it is as far as we agreed | 15:48 |
| danielwilms | the test-environment is as far as we can start to integrate the services | 15:49 |
| danielwilms | cas running | 15:49 |
| X-Fade | Great, I have seen nice reports on it on #maemork. | 15:49 |
| danielwilms | wiki integrated | 15:49 |
| X-Fade | (http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/maemork) | 15:49 |
| danielwilms | working with alexey on midgard | 15:49 |
| bergie | danielwilms: how about the LDAP? | 15:49 |
| danielwilms | we decided to first integrate the sign on...at the moment is just a test ldap without the integration | 15:50 |
| danielwilms | just username/pw to test cas | 15:50 |
| danielwilms | i will look at gforge in the next sprint | 15:51 |
| X-Fade | Ok, so no real roadblocks at the moment? | 15:51 |
| danielwilms | no...it's ok up to now | 15:52 |
| danielwilms | and one comment: #maemork is much nicer than the wiki! | 15:52 |
| danielwilms | :) | 15:52 |
| X-Fade | danielwilms: let's create a different task for each item to integrate. | 15:52 |
| danielwilms | ok...fine! | 15:52 |
| X-Fade | I'll create the july page after the meeting. If you can add your tasks there? | 15:53 |
| danielwilms | I will | 15:53 |
| X-Fade | Ok, let's move to dneary. | 15:53 |
| dneary | let's | 15:53 |
| dneary | I sent my report, not very satisfactory I know | 15:54 |
| X-Fade | How's the library? | 15:54 |
| dneary | Last 2 weeks I've done a lot for GUADEC | 15:54 |
| dneary | This week, I'm in GUADEC, and in 2 weeks in OSCON | 15:54 |
| X-Fade | dneary: So move it to next Sprint as 'MUST' ? | 15:54 |
| dneary | Then I'm on holidays in August | 15:54 |
| X-Fade | Or aren't you able to do it. | 15:54 |
| X-Fade | Ah. | 15:54 |
| dneary | X-Fade: Library is working fine locally here for me | 15:54 |
| dneary | And I've started modifying it | 15:55 |
| dneary | Fred Peters hasn't started working on it yet | 15:55 |
| X-Fade | dneary: It now shows 0%. Which means you haven't touched it. | 15:55 |
| dneary | I have broken it down into pieces - I anticipate making progress on getting library using .debs this month, but it's not going to be finished before I go on holiday | 15:55 |
| X-Fade | dneary: It might be a good idea to indicate that you did something, so others can see that too. | 15:55 |
| Andy80 | dneary, you're one of the few people that comment Guadec :) except few twit, nobody seems to blog anything :\ | 15:56 |
| dneary | X-Fade: "Get library working locally" shows "DONE" | 15:56 |
| X-Fade | dneary: Yeah, true. Sorry. duh. | 15:56 |
| dneary | Andy80: Internet's really bad here | 15:56 |
| dneary | X-Fade: I'll finish getting a local repository done on the way home - it's mostly working here | 15:56 |
| VDVsx | Andy80, try planet gnome ;) | 15:56 |
| dneary | I'm still learning Debian stuff | 15:57 |
| X-Fade | dneary: So library is something for September then? | 15:57 |
| dneary | X-Fade: So my MUST for July is that, and "get to 50% on lgo using .debs" | 15:57 |
| dneary | X-Fade: My goal is a working lib.maemo.org for the summit | 15:57 |
| X-Fade | dneary: Ok. | 15:57 |
| dneary | There's a fair amount to do there, but July & August are tough months | 15:58 |
| X-Fade | dneary: make sure you ask for resources etc in time. | 15:58 |
| dneary | X-Fade: I'm in communication with Tero | 15:58 |
| X-Fade | dneary: Good. | 15:58 |
| dneary | Plus, the Summit organisation's going pretty well, I think, and aside from some of the comments on Talk which annoyed me, the proof-reading task was a success I think | 15:59 |
| dneary | The comments which annoyed me were the finglish & "this is terrible, it doesn't need proof-reading it needs re-writing" comments | 15:59 |
| X-Fade | dneary: Ok. So I'll add those 2 tasks to july. | 15:59 |
| dneary | I met one of the Igalia guys who worked on the HIG here, he was quite upset with the comments. | 16:00 |
| VDVsx | dneary, Joaquim ? | 16:00 |
| dneary | As you know, there isn't much time allocated to these things, and he was really happy to see the community joining in, but then the Talk comments just trashed his work | 16:00 |
| dneary | VDVsx: Yeah | 16:00 |
| X-Fade | Let's try to keep to progress reporting. | 16:00 |
| X-Fade | sopi: How about your 'Should' task? | 16:01 |
| sopi | it is a MUST for July. | 16:01 |
| VDVsx | dneary, was my university colleague :) | 16:01 |
| X-Fade | sopi: Ok. | 16:01 |
| X-Fade | Anything you want to add for July? | 16:02 |
| sopi | X-Fade: and then please add my name to andre__ 's bugzilla patchset work. | 16:02 |
| dneary | X-Fade: Well, the other stuff is important for Maemo too, I don't want to take too much meeting time | 16:02 |
| dneary | I'd like us all to be aware that the people doing the work as best they can are reading what gets written on Talk | 16:02 |
| X-Fade | dneary: Yeah, it is important. But let's it doesn't help to discuss it here as we all agree with you ;) | 16:03 |
| sopi | X-Fade: these two tasks will be enough for me, as I will spend quite a lot of time driving this month. | 16:03 |
| X-Fade | sopi: Ok. Thanks. | 16:03 |
| sopi | thanks you too. | 16:03 |
| X-Fade | JimiDini: How about your task? | 16:03 |
| X-Fade | JimiDini: The karma formula one? | 16:04 |
| JimiDini | X-Fade: as it was talked previously, karma formula can be tuned/discussed after we have statistics and we are stuck there | 16:05 |
| X-Fade | JimiDini: Can you push more people to get that task unstuck? | 16:05 |
| Jaffa | JimiDini: I thought you said in the last meeting that statistics collections was in place? | 16:05 |
| JimiDini | we should make a task about resolving problem with cron | 16:05 |
| sopi | JimiDini: what is missing there? you are not getting data? | 16:05 |
| sopi | JimiDini: what should the cron job do? | 16:06 |
| X-Fade | JimiDini: I asked mutiple people to look at the issue. Nothing seems to have happened there. Somebody at your end should take this on. | 16:06 |
| JimiDini | sopi: yes. there is some configuration-issue with a cron-job, which gets data. it works on my test-machine, but silently doesn't work when X-Fade deploys it | 16:07 |
| bergie | I suspect the mgdschema isn't correctly loaded | 16:07 |
| X-Fade | Anyway, I suggest we make it a 'MUST' task. Implemented this month. | 16:07 |
| X-Fade | This too is dragging on for way too long. | 16:08 |
| bergie | ok... I should be able to help when I get back from GCDS and SoTM | 16:08 |
| X-Fade | Ok, thanks. | 16:09 |
| bergie | X-Fade: actually, if you have time to hop over to Amsterdam this weekend we could discuss this over a beer | 16:09 |
| X-Fade | bergie: Don't have time for that, I'm afraid. | 16:09 |
| bergie | ok | 16:09 |
| NetBlade | X-Fade: monday is also an option for me and bergie | 16:10 |
| X-Fade | Stskeeps: Do you want to talk about your task? | 16:10 |
| NetBlade | X-Fade: because we are leaving on monday evening | 16:10 |
| X-Fade | NetBlade,bergie let'd discuss that in PM. | 16:10 |
| NetBlade | X-Fade: yep | 16:10 |
| Stskeeps | X-Fade, got nothing done due to festival and thesis issues sadly. | 16:11 |
| X-Fade | Stskeeps: Nobody is forcing you to do it. I just follow the list :) | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | yep, i know :) | 16:12 |
| X-Fade | Stskeeps: Anyway, I don't think you will get much response from inside Nokia the coming month. | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, all on hols | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | we'll focus on mer getting to 1.0 - going quite well now | 16:13 |
| X-Fade | Stskeeps: If there is any help you need from us or need to get somehing done. Just suggest it as tasks. | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 16:14 |
| X-Fade | I guess that concludes the 'Should' tasks. | 16:14 |
| X-Fade | I don't think there is much use in discussing the 'Could' tasks? | 16:15 |
| X-Fade | dneary's task seems to head for green and the others are standing due to lack of time? | 16:16 |
| dneary | X-Fade: Pretty much | 16:16 |
| X-Fade | Ok, are there any tasks that need to be added for the next sprint? | 16:16 |
| X-Fade | In either http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_backlog or http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_proposals ? | 16:17 |
| danielwilms | it seems that we all have plenty of things to do and not as much time ;) | 16:19 |
| X-Fade | Ok, then one thing I want to discuss is the reporting. | 16:19 |
| X-Fade | How are you all liking the #maemork reporting? Is this better than the wiki was? | 16:19 |
| danielwilms | X-Fade: good point...I like it much more | 16:20 |
| bergie | I think this says something :-) http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/maemork/view/1de60ef140ea83c60ef11de8f5d4b975cff513e513e/ | 16:20 |
| sopi | X-Fade: I also like #maemork more than the wiki. | 16:20 |
| danielwilms | X-Fade: and it's nice that things are commented by others | 16:21 |
| X-Fade | I like it because you can see what your 'colleagues' are doing. Who are in my case a minimum of 500km away ;) | 16:21 |
| * andre__ got a qaiku account and will also migrate to it | 16:21 | |
| Stskeeps | i'm glad to see maemo.org adopt workstreaming. we have enjoyed it in mer since day one | 16:21 |
| X-Fade | At least we see more than daily reports now, where we saw none on the wiki sometimes. | 16:23 |
| NetBlade | X-Fade: one thing that could be added to the next sprint is improving brainstorm | 16:24 |
| NetBlade | X-Fade: I talked about it with Quim yesterday and he had some pretty good ideas | 16:24 |
| X-Fade | NetBlade: That task is too broad. | 16:24 |
| X-Fade | NetBlade: Add each idea as task ;) | 16:24 |
| NetBlade | X-Fade: ok, I will | 16:25 |
| X-Fade | NetBlade: 'Improve brainstorm' can't be measured. | 16:25 |
| NetBlade | X-Fade: Quim hoped that we get all the changes done before summit | 16:25 |
| X-Fade | NetBlade: Which doesn't seem too unreasonable? | 16:25 |
| NetBlade | X-Fade: but I write all the changes and add those tasks | 16:26 |
| X-Fade | We have more than 2 sprints still. | 16:26 |
| X-Fade | Ok, does anybody want to add anything? | 16:27 |
| X-Fade | Open floor now :) | 16:27 |
| sopi | Thanks for chairing the meeting Niels! | 16:28 |
| NetBlade | I think me and bergie have to leave, bergie is having his presentation in one hour and it takes about 20 minutes to walk from here | 16:28 |
| bergie | yep... see you on Qaiku! | 16:28 |
| X-Fade | NetBlade: I think that we are done ;) | 16:28 |
| NetBlade | k | 16:28 |
| NetBlade | see you | 16:28 |
| danielwilms | ok...thanks...bye bye | 16:29 |
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| sopi | bye guys! | 16:29 |
| andre__ | also having another meeting now... | 16:29 |
| Andy80 | bye! | 16:30 |
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| Jaffa | X-Fade: thanks | 16:33 |
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