| dneary | Hi all | 21:02 |
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| lardman | hi Dave | 21:02 |
| andre__ | hej hej | 21:02 |
| dneary | Do we have a full contingent? | 21:02 |
| marcell1 | hi | 21:02 |
| ferenc | hi | 21:02 |
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| dneary | I'm going to be a little patchy for the next 15 minutes or so - just in (late) from training, need to shower & change | 21:02 |
| bergie__ | all right... are we starting? | 21:03 |
| qgil | hi! | 21:03 |
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| qgil | yes, let's start | 21:03 |
| bergie__ | I'm going to double as "Oskari" today also as he is sick | 21:03 |
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| qgil | do you want me to keep acting as facilitator? | 21:04 |
| bergie__ | sounds like a good idea | 21:04 |
| qgil | X-Fade is really here or only his bot? | 21:04 |
| qgil | someone please keep the log (I couldn't find the log of the last meeting?) | 21:05 |
| dneary | qgil: Let me repeat (for your benefit) what I said just before you arrived: | 21:05 |
| dneary | I'm going to be a little patchy for the next 15 minutes or so - just in (late) from training, need to shower & change | 21:05 |
| bergie__ | qgil: he said he will be offline during his holiday, so I'd imagine it is just screen | 21:05 |
| qgil | ok - http://wiki.maemo.org/100Days/Sprint4 protected | 21:06 |
| dneary | qgil: I asked for (and was pointed at) the log of the last meeting. I thought the link was in the Sprint4 page or the Sprint3 page, but perhaps I was mistaken. | 21:06 |
| bergie__ | ok. I didn't add my today's stuff to activity log but otherwise I think Sprint4 is OK | 21:06 |
| qgil | About the revision of the current sprint, since everybody has been getting more or less to the routine of reporting | 21:07 |
| qgil | I think it's enough to ask for thinks worth commenting and move forward | 21:07 |
| qgil | so we have more time for planning properly the next sprint | 21:07 |
| qgil | agreed? | 21:07 |
| bergie__ | +1 | 21:08 |
| qgil | There are only 2 DONE tasks but both say in the notes that have still pending "details" | 21:09 |
| qgil | let's consider them effectively done, moving anything else to the bug level, ok? | 21:09 |
| qgil | all the rest moves to the next sprint as it is, perhaps with the exception of the brainstorm tool - did you see my email about it in maemo.community? | 21:10 |
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| qgil | bergie__: any opinion on this Task:Maemo brainstorm ? | 21:11 |
| bergie__ | qgil: I talked with Oskari today, and he is still planning to do it | 21:12 |
| bergie__ | the problem is that he couldn't do it before holidays | 21:12 |
| bergie__ | his proposed schedule is: specs soon, then deployment at end of Sep | 21:12 |
| bergie__ | so I think Sprint5 could just include planning it | 21:13 |
| * mashiara has to get up @0630 btw, so anything requiring me specifically should be discussed soon | 21:14 | |
| qgil | ok | 21:14 |
| qgil | then... anything else to comment on http://wiki.maemo.org/100Days/Sprint4 ? | 21:14 |
| qgil | It looks like the expectations for tasks and bugs was too optimistic again | 21:15 |
| qgil | or then you got more busy than expected in other things | 21:15 |
| qgil | please be realistic when commiting to tasks! | 21:15 |
| bergie__ | the "80%" on election software means that sw is all right, but just needs to be run :-) | 21:15 |
| qgil | the task is "community council", not only the software | 21:16 |
| qgil | and there are not even enough candidates to run an election | 21:16 |
| mikkov_ | there are 6 candidates | 21:16 |
| qgil | which is a reason good enough to not consider the task done :) | 21:16 |
| bergie__ | yep. I can't comment on that part as it was Dave's task | 21:16 |
| qgil | 6? ok, then I have missed the announcements, my fault | 21:17 |
| qgil | (going through a lot of email these days, sorry) | 21:17 |
| qgil | anyway, apparently as for today is not DONE, so it moves to next sprint | 21:18 |
| qgil | if you finish it tomorrow - fina :) | 21:18 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/100Days/Sprint5 | 21:18 |
| bergie__ | well, as long as it is reassigned to dneary :-) | 21:18 |
| mikkov_ | https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Community_Council/Candidate_declarations | 21:18 |
| qgil | thx mikkov_ | 21:19 |
| qgil | let's have a look at http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_backlog | 21:19 |
| dneary | On the election task of Sprint4: the infrastructure's essentially in place to run the election, I have an electorate, with Henri, we set up the voting tokens | 21:19 |
| qgil | dneary: so it is the task done or not? | 21:19 |
| dneary | The rest is simple enough: draft the mail to be sent to voters, set up the candidates, bulk send the mail (we need to be sure there's a working MTA on the machine where this is run), mail details to maemo-users, developers & community | 21:20 |
| qgil | do you expected to have this completed by this meeting or not? | 21:20 |
| dneary | Can't do it today, no | 21:21 |
| qgil | (I'm not putting pressure, just asking to know what was the plan) | 21:21 |
| dneary | Have to wait for the candidate list to be final, and I don't have access to the machine the election software is on | 21:21 |
| qgil | ok, so let's move it as it is and you complete it soon, np | 21:21 |
| dneary | I'll need to work with Bergie tomorrow morning to get that done | 21:21 |
| dneary | OK | 21:21 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_backlog | 21:21 |
| qgil | tasks to be commited to the following sprint, ending in the Maemo Summit and also the end of the 100Days | 21:22 |
| bergie__ | dneary: I will be online after 10am EEST | 21:22 |
| qgil | (let me also link to http://wiki.maemo.org/100Days for reference) | 21:22 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Fast_Server - this is a must | 21:23 |
| qgil | marcell1 / mashiara ? | 21:23 |
| dneary | One task for me before the Summit: Task:Content_Cleanup | 21:23 |
| bergie__ | yes, let us discuss that before mashiara goes offline | 21:23 |
| dneary | But I'll need to motivate myself to do this & come up with some kind of plan :( | 21:23 |
| qgil | now | 21:23 |
| marcell1 | mashiara could tell more about the current status | 21:23 |
| mashiara | servers | 21:24 |
| mashiara | the new vms are up and running with data from internal.maemo.org | 21:24 |
| dneary | back in a few minutes... | 21:24 |
| bergie__ | mashiara: any siege results? | 21:24 |
| mashiara | not yet | 21:24 |
| mashiara | cache etc settings are in baseline, and first thing to do is to establish the baseline performance | 21:25 |
| bergie__ | mashiara: can you outline the schedule with testing and migrating to the new servers? | 21:25 |
| mashiara | moment | 21:26 |
| marcell1 | meanwhile we are planning some kind of a very basic performance testing with ISP and Nokia BI. | 21:26 |
| marcell1 | whenever mashiara says that his part is done we can go ahead with the load testing and see how the servers behave | 21:27 |
| marcell1 | I am still optimistic, but we are running out of time | 21:27 |
| mashiara | baseline load testing can be done on your part as soon as you can, just let us know when you're dong so that we can stay away | 21:27 |
| mashiara | as for services other than Midgard (as dicussed today) | 21:28 |
| mashiara | they probably will have to stay on the current box | 21:28 |
| mashiara | which is not a problem since it will need to be separately accessible in any case | 21:29 |
| mashiara | in the "maintenance node" role | 21:29 |
| marcell1 | this means mediawiki and what else? | 21:30 |
| qgil | ok, from all this it looks that is still feasible to think that the task can be completed in the next sprint, finally? | 21:30 |
| bergie__ | marcell1: mediawiki, garage, election software, bugzilla are at least the non-Midgard services | 21:30 |
| ferenc | garage is on different server | 21:30 |
| ferenc | bugzilla is on different server | 21:30 |
| marcell1 | garage and bugzilla are not running on maemo.org | 21:30 |
| mashiara | I gues ferenc has best knowledge | 21:31 |
| ferenc | the most importnat is the wiki, which should stay where it is. | 21:31 |
| ferenc | wiki implies a local mysql of course, but that's a detail already. | 21:31 |
| mashiara | also AFAIRecall there is some mail passthrough being done on dratini | 21:32 |
| ferenc | yes, true. passing mails to lists.maemo.org. | 21:32 |
| mashiara | or at least used to be | 21:32 |
| ferenc | that should stay as well. | 21:32 |
| qgil | mmm, shouldn't all this be documented at http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Fast_Server or somewhere | 21:33 |
| mashiara | is it only lists.maemo.org or maemo.org as well | 21:33 |
| marcell1 | yes, but if the load balancer will be maemo.org then what will happen with the mails for example? | 21:33 |
| qgil | in principle in this planning meeting we don't get into details of the discussion of each task, just whatver is needed to organize the sprint and have coordination among us | 21:33 |
| mashiara | it depends what A and MX records say | 21:33 |
| qgil | you can always organize another chat whenever fits you well just on this task | 21:33 |
| mashiara | true | 21:34 |
| ferenc | marcell1: the load balancer should be configured so that it forwards all mails to one IP | 21:34 |
| bergie__ | agreed with qgil | 21:34 |
| marcell1 | ok | 21:34 |
| ferenc | let's take this offline | 21:34 |
| marcell1 | ok | 21:34 |
| bergie__ | mashiara, marcell1: I think the point is just giving couple of milestones for this and time estimates for those | 21:34 |
| bergie__ | something like: | 21:34 |
| qgil | ok, so task goes to sprint5 | 21:34 |
| bergie__ | 1. Load testing completed | 21:34 |
| bergie__ | 2. Data migration and testing | 21:34 |
| bergie__ | 3. New servers live | 21:34 |
| marcell1 | bergie__: let's discuss it tomorrow | 21:35 |
| qgil | and please document in the wiki page - except the details affecting security etc | 21:35 |
| bergie__ | marcell1: the wiki page would be great place for those... http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Fast_Server | 21:35 |
| qgil | ok, let's continue | 21:35 |
| qgil | taking as reference http://wiki.maemo.org/100Days | 21:35 |
| qgil | since this is what we committed initially to do by the summit | 21:36 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Defining_maemo has only one subtask apparently left | 21:36 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Remarkable_community_projects | 21:36 |
| qgil | was dneary handling this? | 21:36 |
| qgil | it says that is for "ongoing sprint" but is it listed in Sprint4? | 21:37 |
| dneary | qgil: I considered this DONE at the last sprint meeting | 21:37 |
| dneary | What's left? | 21:37 |
| qgil | I don't know, it's just that the wiki page loks like not done | 21:37 |
| qgil | If it's complete, ok | 21:38 |
| dneary | See Sprint3 tasks | 21:38 |
| dneary | I marked it DONE there | 21:38 |
| mashiara | ok, good night people | 21:38 |
| dneary | Should I also have done so elsewhere? | 21:38 |
| bergie__ | qgil: can you reassign the "Community council" task in Sprint5 to dneary ? | 21:38 |
| ferenc | mashiara: night | 21:39 |
| dneary | bergie__: We're in this together dude - as long as I don't have shell access to that machine ;) | 21:39 |
| qgil | the wiki page is still a wiki page talking about "proposals" and "candidates", are these apps with start listed somewhere? | 21:39 |
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| bergie__ | dneary: sure, I'll run the commands needed, but I want you to be in charge of the task :-) | 21:39 |
| dneary | qgil: The Pearls | 21:39 |
| qgil | ok | 21:40 |
| qgil | so then it's only the wiki page that needs to go from ongoing to completed | 21:40 |
| qgil | fine | 21:40 |
| dneary | https://maemo.org/downloads/featured/OS2008/50/ | 21:40 |
| dneary | The remaining issue (I opened a bug) is that there are more than 25 pearls, and there's no navigation mechanism to go to page 2 | 21:40 |
| dneary | By default, that link is https://maemo.org/downloads/featured/OS2008/25/ | 21:41 |
| qgil | ok ok, sorry for beiung such pita documenting in the task pages, but otherwise you go 3 weeks on holidays and when you are back you get lost like this - imagine if you come new here and start luring the wiki :) | 21:41 |
| qgil | let's continue with the 100Days | 21:41 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Mapping_openness | 21:42 |
| bergie__ | dneary: can you post a bug on paging for pearls? | 21:42 |
| dneary | bergie__: istr that I did | 21:42 |
| bergie__ | dneary: ah, saw it... https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3565 | 21:43 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_contributions belongs to this mapping opennes and is in the backlog - I take it for sprint5 | 21:43 |
| qgil | "Document explaining the open source positioning and strategy of Nokia in Maemo" - the request was a bit vague but I will come up with something hopefully satisfactory | 21:44 |
| qgil | "Explanation of the reasons why the closed source packages are closed" - I'll do my best at least providing the general reasons, going package through package requires more work | 21:45 |
| qgil | and the Summit will still take me a lot of time | 21:45 |
| qgil | "Process to request a closed source package to be open" there is one good use case now since Florian requested opening the Alarm Framework | 21:46 |
| qgil | andre__: do you mind looking for the bug, it was in the last Jar | 21:46 |
| qgil | "Review the Maemo contribution guidelines" will not make it for this sprint | 21:47 |
| qgil | I have been asking for feedback internally and externally and got very little | 21:47 |
| andre__ | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3635 | 21:47 |
| qgil | without a clear idea of the problem currently and the needs for changing policies I don't want to commit in an already busy sprint | 21:47 |
| qgil | andre__: thanks! | 21:47 |
| andre__ | shall i do something, or did you just want to have the number? :) | 21:48 |
| qgil | so lots of work for me in this task about mapping openness | 21:48 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:ITt_Collaboration | 21:48 |
| qgil | bergie__ | 21:48 |
| bergie__ | qgil: I'd like to take that to this Sprint | 21:49 |
| qgil | ok, you coordinate with Reggie | 21:49 |
| bergie__ | yep | 21:49 |
| qgil | and whoever else wants to get involved | 21:49 |
| qgil | that wiki page needs certainly cleaning and a plan | 21:49 |
| bergie__ | I'm not sure what else than planning and coordination will happen yet | 21:49 |
| bergie__ | but at least I'll get the process rolling this week | 21:49 |
| qgil | Reggie had made some work in the ITt wiki if I remember correctly | 21:49 |
| bergie__ | yep, I saw it | 21:50 |
| qgil | ok | 21:50 |
| bergie__ | he defined some XML interfaces he wants | 21:50 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Consolidation_of_Extras | 21:50 |
| bergie__ | so I think ITT collaboration will not be 100% done this sprint, but at least started and with some progress | 21:51 |
| qgil | for your own good, you will find all the ITt popes in Berlin ;) | 21:51 |
| qgil | X-Fade is not here, but overall I'd say that the Extras task is mostly done for what it could be done in 100 Days | 21:52 |
| bergie__ | unfortunately I'm in Korea then, so Eero and Oskari have to be "Bergie" there :-) | 21:52 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Improving_maemo.org | 21:53 |
| qgil | this is a tough one | 21:53 |
| qgil | I think the only realistic approach for this sprint is | 21:54 |
| qgil | to commit to an agreed high level plan about what needs to be done | 21:54 |
| qgil | at this point not even that wiki page is clear and there are many subpages that are also not 100% about what needs to be done | 21:55 |
| bergie__ | qgil: different-language Planets are easy, but then questions are should they appear in Social News, and who will manage them? | 21:55 |
| qgil | dneary: can you commit to push this plan? | 21:55 |
| dneary | It is a tough one | 21:55 |
| qgil | different-language planets are not a priority if you ask *me* but since we don't have an agreed plan we don't even know how important that is for *us* | 21:56 |
| dneary | Anyway... | 21:56 |
| bergie__ | qgil: yep... but that was the only point in there I could immediately comment on :-) | 21:56 |
| qgil | dneary: a high level plan | 21:56 |
| dneary | I definitely want to see parts of this addressed in this sprint | 21:56 |
| dneary | But the task, as is, is all over the place, and seems like a multi-month task | 21:56 |
| dneary | For a number of people | 21:57 |
| qgil | this is why - high level plan agreed in this sprint and then from this there will be many tasks for many people | 21:57 |
| dneary | OK | 21:57 |
| bergie__ | and that will probably require discussion in the summit anyway | 21:57 |
| qgil | final blessing of the high level plan in the summit | 21:57 |
| dneary | Although I was getting motivated for "Cleanup_Content" (which really should be a subtask of this) | 21:57 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Content_Cleanup is just a subtask of the previous one | 21:58 |
| dneary | OK | 21:58 |
| dneary | The high level plan for the Summit | 21:58 |
| dneary | I'll probably just copy your high-level plan for the gnome.org revamp ;-) | 21:58 |
| qgil | we have many senior guys around with opinions about maemo.org in the high level | 21:59 |
| qgil | squeeze our brains, add your salt and pepper and we will have a good plan | 21:59 |
| bergie__ | dneary: the "improving" page had some good points on the process of getting started with maemo... steps to download sdk etc | 22:00 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_roadmap | 22:00 |
| dneary | bergie__: I agree - there are some good points | 22:00 |
| dneary | Currently you have some detail mixed in with some conflicting high-level opinions | 22:00 |
| dneary | Plus, behind everything, a mass of existing content to review, update, throw away or rewrite | 22:00 |
| dneary | qgil: I still have that Wengo-specific article on my desk | 22:01 |
| dneary | Some of the stuff in there is project specific - I'll try to at least extract a decent blog entry | 22:01 |
| qgil | dneary: it is a,lso good to leave the fast server task to work quietly and then go ahead with the knife when the infra is ready | 22:01 |
| qgil | dneary: as said, for me it's not needed to work an an English translation considering that som people do read French and for the rest automatic translation is enough to get an idea | 22:02 |
| qgil | if you want to translate in your hobby time, that's great of course :) | 22:02 |
| qgil | about Maemo roadmap | 22:03 |
| qgil | "Announce the Fremantle plans and libraries changes" - will do, mine. | 22:03 |
| dneary | qgil: Message received & understood. | 22:03 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_public_roadmapping_process .... will do my best to at least have a draft proposal or something - not sure about completing | 22:03 |
| qgil | and http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Community_Council - it looks like it will be completed in Sprint5 | 22:04 |
| qgil | so far it looks quite good actually - if we complete in sprint5 all the things we have assumed here and now that would be completed | 22:04 |
| qgil | ooops, there is one more task left: http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Using_garage.maemo.org - ferenc | 22:05 |
| qgil | it's already commited, coming from last sprint | 22:06 |
| qgil | any other task to be commited to sprint5 from http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_backlog ? | 22:06 |
| qgil | Process to request a closed source package to be open - GeneralAntilles / do you commit to this one? | 22:07 |
| qgil | Maemo Community calendar: beta finished or killed. - ferenc / can we take this out of the backlog (and the link in maemo.org) according to your comment on the bug report? | 22:08 |
| ferenc | yes | 22:08 |
| ferenc | maybe somebody will pick it up someday. | 22:09 |
| qgil | ok | 22:09 |
| ferenc | but i guess it is "dead" from our point of view :( | 22:09 |
| bergie__ | well, Jerry isn't working for us anymore, and it was his pet project | 22:09 |
| qgil | then the tasks in the backlog related to the summit will be completed no matter what :) - I will list it in the Sprint5 | 22:10 |
| qgil | anything else about the backlog? | 22:10 |
| bergie__ | qgil: all right... anything else for my part of the meeting? It seems it is soon appropriate time to leave this waterpipe cafe | 22:10 |
| qgil | where the hell are you now? :) | 22:11 |
| bergie__ | qgil: couple hundred meters from Bahcesehir university :-) | 22:11 |
| qgil | sounds like dejà vu :) | 22:11 |
| dneary | qgil: He liked Istanbul so much he went to live there :) | 22:11 |
| qgil | yep, we will review proposals now but it looks like Nemein's basket is quite full already | 22:12 |
| dneary | bergie: See you in 11 hours for the election stuff? | 22:12 |
| dneary | We should be done in under 2 hours, I think | 22:12 |
| bergie__ | qgil: http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/part-time_istanbullu.html | 22:12 |
| bergie__ | dneary: yep | 22:12 |
| qgil | bergie__: I see - enjoy! | 22:12 |
| bergie__ | qgil: all right. I'll go through the logs tomorrow and make updates to the sprint page as needed from our POW | 22:12 |
| bergie__ | POV that is :-) | 22:13 |
| dneary | (just confirming we're on the right TZ wavelength, since I have to go around 11am tomorrow for a couple of ours) | 22:13 |
| bergie__ | dneary: I'm in Istanbul/Helsinki time | 22:13 |
| dneary | That's 1 hour ahead of me, right? | 22:13 |
| bergie__ | ok... talk to you guys tomorrow | 22:13 |
| dneary | Paris time | 22:13 |
| bergie__ | I believe so | 22:13 |
| guenther | it is | 22:13 |
| andre__ | yes, +1 | 22:14 |
| qgil | alright, http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_proposals | 22:14 |
| dneary | So 10am your time is OK with you? | 22:14 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Brainstorming_new_features went in fact to the last sprint directly, kind of | 22:14 |
| bergie__ | yep | 22:14 |
| bergie__ | talk to you then | 22:14 |
| qgil | according to bergie__ oskari will work on the planning, leaving implementation for later - so it will be moved to sprint5 | 22:15 |
| bergie__ | yep | 22:15 |
| bergie__ | confirmed | 22:15 |
| bergie__ | planning for Sprint5 | 22:15 |
| qgil | ok - now you can go ;O | 22:15 |
| bergie__ | and I sent a note to Eero about actually updating the wiki on the servers :-) | 22:16 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:3rd_party_bug_tracking_in_bugs.maemo.org | 22:16 |
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| qgil | andre__ guenther what do you want to do about this task | 22:17 |
| andre__ | so far there have been only few requests (Advanced Backlight, Browser Extras, Community Kernels) | 22:17 |
| andre__ | we might want to push this more, e.g. at the summit, but it also requires a rights management so maintainers can create versions and milestones on their own | 22:17 |
| andre__ | ...guenther might elaborate (or not) :-) | 22:17 |
| qgil | andre__: but is the plan clear? | 22:17 |
| qgil | the proposal is mainly about having a plan agreed and a process | 22:18 |
| guenther | too much detail to elaborate on that ;) | 22:18 |
| qgil | then chasing the projects is a different story imho | 22:18 |
| * andre__ hands over the microphone to guenther ;-) | 22:18 | |
| qgil | stage panic? | 22:19 |
| dneary | I'm going to step out of the meeting if that's OK - is there anything else for me that I sould come back for? | 22:19 |
| qgil | anyway, proposing to move to backlog, that's it | 22:19 |
| guenther | yes, I am shy | 22:19 |
| qgil | (bugs?) | 22:19 |
| qgil | anyway, nothing essential that I recall | 22:19 |
| guenther | We had a long-ish discussion about the plan, and the corner cases have been outlined. | 22:19 |
| guenther | Details implementing this turned out to be difficult at times. | 22:20 |
| qgil | so you have started on this, so it is accepted in the backlog | 22:20 |
| qgil | unless you wamnt to commit something for Sprint5 | 22:20 |
| guenther | Backlog, yes. That entire page can't be done by the Summit. | 22:21 |
| qgil | fine, then please split in tasks otherwise you will get in the same situation as "Get the developers involved in bugzilla" | 22:21 |
| guenther | Also, IMHO it is more important to have tings like the branding done properly for the Summit. :) | 22:22 |
| qgil | btw, andre__ are you commiting anything related to bug630 in sprint5? | 22:22 |
| * guenther nods | 22:22 | |
| qgil | anyway, back to proposals | 22:23 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Improving_maemo.org/community | 22:23 |
| andre__ | reorg components, hopefully. it takes (of course) more time than expected (interesting concepts here on paper), and i spent less time on it because "normal" syncing/triaging takes more time than expected | 22:23 |
| dneary | Tim's done great work on this so far | 22:23 |
| andre__ | in short: yes: reorg components. | 22:23 |
| dneary | qgil: Still here for a minute :) | 22:24 |
| qgil | andre__: ok | 22:24 |
| qgil | ok let's move this proposed task to backlog since Tim is not here and hasn't commented afaik | 22:24 |
| dneary | What's missing now in what Tim's done is the layout work - what will the page look like, how will we get all the information in a hierarchy so that we don't miss anything important, but we don't overwhelm the reader | 22:24 |
| dneary | We discussed it a bit just before I went on holidays. | 22:25 |
| qgil | ok, it also makes sense to have first the high level plan in order to attack corners like this one in a better way | 22:25 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Single-click_publishing_for_Garage is still too green and has no owner, proposing to move to Reviewed | 22:26 |
| qgil | (2 mins) | 22:26 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:maemo.org_IRC_feeds GeneralAntilles are you here? | 22:28 |
| qgil | If not I'd propose moving it to... reviewed? It looks like needing more comments/interest from others | 22:29 |
| qgil | any comments? | 22:29 |
| qgil | to reviewed then | 22:30 |
| qgil | and finally... bugs | 22:31 |
| qgil | Let's have a look at the MEDIUM bugs at http://wiki.maemo.org/100Days/Sprint4#Bugs_in_product_Website | 22:31 |
| qgil | anybody willing to take/push one of those to HIGH and Sprint5? | 22:31 |
| mikkov_ | how do I get bugs 3629 and 3613 to that list? | 22:33 |
| guenther | mikkov_: change the priority | 22:33 |
| guenther | qgil: I got 2 of those on my list. | 22:33 |
| guenther | The weekly report is high on the radar to be done for the Summit. | 22:33 |
| qgil | mikkov_: convince the owner to change the priority :) | 22:34 |
| andre__ | i'm going to take mine (3664 and 3562) of course :) | 22:34 |
| guenther | The "force guided" one turned out to need quite some work and changes. It's on my backburner. | 22:34 |
| guenther | 3577 "somehow" got Prio High already. ;) | 22:35 |
| qgil | mikkov_: comment in those bugs that you would like to see them pushed for the next sprint - and see then if Niels or whoever else can commit to that | 22:35 |
| guenther | (that's the branding one, to be done for the Summit) | 22:35 |
| qgil | or at least put them as MEDIUM to have them in the radar | 22:35 |
| qgil | andre__ & guenther ok, please set those bugs as high | 22:35 |
| qgil | some other medium are related to tasks now committed, I will set them as high as well | 22:36 |
| qgil | X-Fade and the Nemein guys are not here, but https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3624 looks like high? | 22:38 |
| marcell1 | yes | 22:38 |
| ferenc | just commented on the bug | 22:39 |
| ferenc | i can't reproduce it, it seems. | 22:39 |
| mikkov_ | I'm pretty sure that commenting isn't also working on downloads. | 22:39 |
| qgil | is high now | 22:40 |
| qgil | anything else? | 22:40 |
| qgil | for sprint5 | 22:40 |
| qgil | thanks for the meeting, then! | 22:41 |
| qgil | we are getting better in timing :) | 22:41 |
| ferenc | good night | 22:41 |
| qgil | I will apply changes tomorrow morning since I also wake up early | 22:41 |
| qgil | I will desprotect the sprint pages now just in case someone wants to edit the, | 22:41 |
| qgil | m | 22:42 |
| qgil | good night! | 22:42 |
| andre__ | gnight | 22:42 |
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| marcell1 | good night | 22:42 |
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| guenther | night everyone (not yet for me...) | 22:42 |
| qgil | and please someone to check the log and put it in the usual directory (or whatever X-fade does to get them) | 22:43 |
| X-Fade | Ok, here it is ;) | 99:99 |
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