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The video (here) shows Canola 2 running on a 770 equipped with OS2007HE and the results are amazingly fluid, things should be even better on N8×0. Beside

Canola could really be a killing application for Internet Tablets N810, even if the single MicroSD on N810 could somehow be a threshold, 8GB MSD aren’t easy to find yet). Also being able to handle multimedia contents in such an easy and comfortable way could really help making more people aware of what IT can be “useful” for, beside simply accessing the internet.

Portable media players are another kinda interesting market. What about an Internet Tablet which can be made in a portable media player with a single touch of your finger? Scree real estate isn’t really a problem on IT family, as well as definition and brightness, after all.

We only have to wait 9 more days!

Comments welcome…

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The video (here) shows Canola 2 running on a 770 equipped with OS2007HE and the results are  amazingly fluid, things should be even better on N8×0. Beside

Canola could really be a killing application for Internet Tablets N810, even if the single MicroSD on N810 could somehow be a threshold, 8GB MSD aren’t easy to find yet). Also being able to handle multimedia contents in such an easy and comfortable way could really help making more people aware of what IT can be “useful” for, beside simply accessing the internet.

Portable media players are another kinda interesting market. What about an Internet Tablet which can be made in a portable media player with a single touch of your finger? Scree real estate isn’t really a problem on IT family, as well as definition and brightness, after all.

We only have to wait 9 more days!

Comments welcome…

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After having spent last three days with OS2008 on Godot (my N800:-) ) it’s time to draw some conclusions.

Speed

For sure OS2008 is hella fast! Using it on N800 is a pleasure. CPU speed management’s improvements are there, and you can feel it. Opening menus and launching apps is a pleasure, well even more thant what it was before!

Menus

Talking about menus, first time I saw new larger OS2008 menus I wasn’t sure I was going to like them but after getting used to the new look I have to confess that, after all, they are not as bad as I thought. Perhaps it would have been a little better being able to freely choice your size, you know: size matters!

Application Manager

In one word (and a half): it works! On OS2007 it was a pain using it. Everyone remembers having continuously to scroll application list after every install/remove action. I mean, that sort of things that make you ask if people really use the program they write.

Now, at last once an application has been installed/removed, AppMan will remember our position. Ins’t it great?

And again: speed! Browsing applications is very easy and comfortable. (more…)

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Just got Skype running on my N800, after flashing latest OS2008 (it was supposed to work on N810 only).

I tried installing it from Application Manager but it failed (”Download failed” message).

So I decided to give a try to apt-get

First of all you need to become root on your N800. Apparently the ssh way is not working anymore (password used to be “rootme”, but I wasn’t able to login, I’ll try to investigate a little bit) so you will have to use the gainroot script. Use flasher-3.0 to enable R&D mode, open a xterm session and write: “sudo gainroot”. At this point I also suggest you to create a new password for root account (using passwd), so that in the future you will be able to use ssh to login onto your device. While root write:

apt-get install skype

Apparently worked fine, but when installing Skype package I got an error, complaining about not using latest N810 software (are you kidding me?! )

What now? Simple enough. I had the package, only need to have it expanded:

dpkg -x /var/cache/apt/archives/skype_1.7.62.48.2_armel.deb /

beside not being canonical it worked and I was able to make and receive calls!

Please remember that beside everything seems to be working fine, this is a hack. Do it at your own risk So, basically, don’t blame me if something goes wrong!

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Actual release is a beta specifically aimed to developers. Announcement here. This release basically answers all my questions in previous posts.

So, perhaps, I’m not going to get an N810 in the next few weeks but, at least, now it will be possible to start working on a “stable” OS2008 device, avoiding using any trick

Some remarks:

1) OS2008 upgrade for N800 and N810 releases were originally planned to be done simultaneously.

2) OS2008 upgrade for N810 was released last week.

3) Discount codes *should* be fully functional Dec 15th.

Then: N810 release aproaching!

Anyway, and that’s what really counts, now developers can use a “stable” device for development purposes filling the gap I was highlighting in my previous posts.

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Could it be a prelude to N810 long awaited release? We will see.

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Quim’s comment:

I understand your frustration but note that it is caused partly because of early delivery to developers (Chinook SDK) and contributors (codes). We could have done like in the N800 program and let pass first hardware, distribution and discounts enabled in shops. But this caused confusion on contributors not knowing whether to go and buy or wait to get a discount.

This time everybody knew in advance about the discounts, independently from hardware - distribution - shops schedules. If this turns to be a problem then we must to be more conservative next time. Delivering the same transparency on hardware - distribution - shops then with oss development is out of scope.

About us telling dates before having then confirmed, let’s not forget that we did so this year with the 770 HE and, well, it didn’t work out. Please understand if we don’t forget about some of the lessons learned. This is why we are “silently” working on having confirmed dates, an exercise that involves more parties and variables than you probably think. The day we have those dates you will be the first ones to know in maemo.org.

And my answer:

First of all, thank you (as always) for answering. I want to clarify something, at least from my very own point of view. I’m not upset by not getting an N810 anytime soon. My thoughts were about Nokia’s (again, not Maemo’s) strategy. I mean, it doesn’t make any sense, to me, releasing a device to end users a month or two before than releasing it to developers.
Michael pointed out in one of the previous comments that pushing out to developers pre-production devices could have been too much, exposing too many bugs, that’s true. But it’s also true that releasing production devices to developers first could have helped poiting out more bugs, because of the “advanced-user” nature of those developers.

Again, beside being somehow sad having to wait until the new year to get my N810, I am not upset. I am grateful to you and everyone at Maemo for the great job you did and you are doing.

And as Eduard said, I don’t care if N810 will be released in the next weeks or in the next momth. That would simply nice, from a *strategic* point of view, to know when. Moreover if Nokia released a press communicate announcing N810 availability on shelves. Just strategy.

Also, I don’t think you did anything wrong in giving out codes so early. I strongly believe you did the right thing, from a community point of view, and Maemo is *also* a community. I strongly believe you don’t have to change anything in this process.

I also understand, as I said more than once, that what’s going on with Nokia/Maemo is something completely new and different.

A kinda big company {trying to deal | dealing} with an open source project and community.

I perfectly understand that’s not an easy task, both have their distinctiveness and peculiarities, they need to be put in harmony.

Not an easy task. But a great challeng for sure, both from Nokia’s/business and Maemo’s/Open Source point of view.

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In the wait for my N810, and the release of N800’s firmware upgrade to IS2008 I decide do to some tests. One of the criticisms against to IT graphic interface is that it’s kinda too “constricted” and limited (you cannot move windows around, you cannot have more windows shown at once, etc.). I have to admit that’s (partly, at least) true, but the overall usability is overall more than acceptable (IMHO). (more…)

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