maemo-meeting-2009-08-04

JaffaStarting now :-)15:34
Jaffa1) Updates on non-completed actions from July/anything to add about completion15:35
Jaffahttp://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/July_0915:35
danielwilmsdidn't get the gforge integration completely ready15:35
Jaffaqgil: 8.11-01 should be 100%, correct? Anything to add to the notes there? Anything carrying over/incomplete?15:35
danielwilmsbut it is on a good way15:35
Jaffadanielwilms: We'll go down the list in order, I think.15:36
timsamoffHenri won't be here today, correct?15:36
Jaffatimsamoff: correct.15:36
qgilJaffa: no15:36
qgiland basically nthing to add to whatever I have reported already  :)15:36
timsamoffJaffa: Ok. I have a reques for him (or someone) at the end of the meeting.15:37
Jaffaqgil: thanks15:37
sopitimsamoff: i am here to take your requests15:37
Jaffaandre__: 9.02-01 and 9.04-05: two musts15:37
timsamoffsopi: Thanks. :)15:37
Jaffa90% and 80% respectively.15:37
andre__Thanks to sopi we have a Bugzilla 3.4 test installation online.15:37
andre__9.02-01: Patches are analyzed (luckily all important stuff is in form of debian dpatch files)15:37
andre__I consider 9.02-01 as done (plus I want better and clearer subtasks to be honest).15:37
andre__hence i propose MUST for next month: Get "Nokia patches" part cleanly into Bugzilla 3.4 test installation and drop as many deltas as possible15:38
andre__COULD: Get Template/CSS stuff for Bugzilla 3.4 into good shape. This is basically 9.04-05 which is MUST currently, I know, but I should start realizing that BAU stuff still takes more time than I expected. :-/15:38
andre__so i propose to close the first one as DONE and start a new (better defined) subtask15:39
sopiandre__: put my name to the first "MUST" task. I will make sure the Nokia patchset is sorted out. We can actually do that together..15:39
sopi andre__: and you can focus on the CSS part.15:39
andre__oh, okay. thanks a lot!15:39
sopiandre__: you are welcome!15:40
Jaffaandre__: OK, so 9.02-01 is being closed. And 9.04-05 being dropped in priority to COULD for next sprint?15:40
andre__let's say SHOULD as sopi helps15:40
* Jaffa reminds everyone that election & summit will take people's time; but presumably not you, andre__ 15:40
Jaffaandre__: OK, cool.15:40
Jaffaandre__: anything else to add on those?15:41
Jaffajeremiah: 9.06-03 is done. Anything to add?15:41
andre__Well, kudos to sopi mostly, big help :)15:41
jeremiahNot really - must of the issues are fairly common15:41
jeremiahSo I think they should be fairly easy to solve.15:41
jeremiahNothing has popped up that seems to be a blocker to fremantle.15:42
Jaffajeremiah: Cool. How's it shaping up?15:42
Jaffa(Fremantle Extras)?15:42
jeremiahI think it is going well - I have a couple things to do that you and X-Fade spotted.15:42
jeremiahBut I am pretty impressed with X-Fade's ideas and implementation15:43
JaffaCool. Which takes us on to X-Fade's 9.06-0515:43
jeremiahIndeed. :)15:43
X-FadeCan I propose maemian as a must for jeremiah?15:43
jeremiahYou can, but maemian is really, really big.15:44
JaffaIs that the blocker?15:44
jeremiahThe "frontend" is 2000 lines of code15:44
X-Fadejeremiah: No it shoud not be big. It should just work for the simplest of tests.15:44
X-Fadejeremiah: And then improve on it later.15:44
X-Fadejeremiah: The infra should be ready for testing asap.15:44
jeremiahX-Fade: Okay, but part of the point of maemian is to port lintian and merge that with Nokia's lintian15:44
jeremiahThat is a large code base15:45
X-Fadejeremiah: So we at least know we have all the pieces of the puzzle in place somehow.15:45
JaffaX-Fade: So your suggestion is the infrastructure for a single, simple test (e.g. package names don't contain capital letters); rather than the definitive maemian?15:45
X-FadeJaffa: Yeah, or check for categories or whatever.15:45
jeremiahX-Fade: I have minimae for that.15:45
X-FadeJaffa: And then add cases when there is more time.15:45
* Jaffa nods15:45
X-FadeBecause that task is becoming a monster that will never finish otherwise.15:46
X-FadeSmall tasks ;)15:46
JaffaX-Fade: yup.15:46
jeremiahOkay. I have a small script that works on .dsc files now15:46
Jaffajeremiah: Does that sound reasonable?15:46
jeremiahJaffa: Yes, very.15:46
JaffaCool.15:46
jeremiahMay I just say;15:46
JaffaX-Fade: what about the other blockers for the promotion interface?15:47
X-FadeAbout my task. It is shaping up, there are a few bugs left which I want to fix this week. 15:47
jeremiahThat the small script is called minimae (pronounced mini-me) and the big one is maemian15:47
X-FadeThe only thing blocking promotion is a but in reptrol atm, but I think Jeremiah is working on that now.15:47
jeremiahminimae is the one we'll turn into a must for me.15:47
Jaffajeremiah: Yup. Worth clarifying.15:47
jeremiahX-Fade: It's not a bug so much as I am not reading lib dirs correctly and pushing all the right binaries.15:47
jeremiahBut I know what I have to do15:48
jeremiahand it is mostly done15:48
Jaffajeremiah: Is that reptrol issue too small for a task/likely to be completed soon.15:48
Jaffa?15:48
X-FadeI consider it a bug not a task.15:48
jeremiahNo - I have mostly fixed it.15:48
Jaffajeremiah: Cool.15:48
X-FadeBut other than that, we should/could start testing extras-testing soon.15:48
JaffaX-Fade: What's the audience for the packages UI? Is it worth trying to find someone to look at compartmentalising the UI/CSSifying it a bit. The grey background of maemo.org blurs everything together a bit for me.15:49
JaffaX-Fade: Cool15:49
JaffaX-Fade: Does your MUST task include documentation/communication?15:49
X-FadeJaffa: developers, maintainers and community testers.15:49
X-FadeJaffa: Well no, it would be nice if somebody else could take that on.15:50
X-FadeJaffa: I can give explanations, but there is still a lot of infra that needs to be fixed behind the scenes.15:50
JaffaX-Fade: OK, I'll take that on as a SHOULD.15:50
X-FadeThanks.15:51
X-FadeAnd yeah, packages could use some CSS love>15:51
Jaffa9.06-05 staying open then, for the next sprint - still as a MUST; for completion in the next sprint?15:51
jeremiahYeah, there is a lot of data on those pages.15:51
X-FadeBut I'm concentrating on functionality for now.15:51
JaffaX-Fade: I'll take an action to ask on tmo/poke timsamoff/glaubert/...15:51
X-FadeYeah, should finish.15:51
JaffaX-Fade: s/should/must/ ;-)15:52
X-Fadeehm yeah.15:52
Jaffaheh.15:52
JaffaOK, moving on to 9.06-07: karma for applications. A MUST at 25%.15:52
JaffaBeen kicking around for a while this one.15:52
X-FadeJimiDini: ?15:53
JimiDiniWe had technical problems with this one, and bergie finally fixed problem with cron-scripts which blocked this15:53
JimiDiniproblem was fixed on 29-th and we get data since then. There will be enough data for experiments in days from now15:53
sopiJimiDini: we can not let this slip for an other month.15:54
sopiJimiDini: any chance to get it done in 2 weeks max?15:54
JimiDiniAlso, I have access to maemo.org machine since today, so I will be able to solve similiar issues by myself now.15:54
JimiDinisopi: definitely15:55
sopiJimiDini: so in the September meeting we can already talk about the results, not about problems..15:55
JaffaJimiDini: So, the task for this sprint is a MUST of getting data; coming up with some proposals; getting consensus on those proposals on maemo-(community/developers)?15:56
Jaffasopi: I like that; "talk about results, not about problems" - should be the sprint meeting motto ;-)15:57
JimiDiniJaffa: I will be able to come with proposals and I will be able to implement them. I can't answer for communitie's speed in getting consensus, but I will do my best to keep the process of "hunting for consensus" going ;)15:58
JaffaJimiDini: OK, let's say "communicate proposals and push for consensus" ;-)15:58
* Jaffa 'll help facilitate if needed15:58
JimiDiniyes15:58
JimiDinithanks :)15:58
sopiJimiDini: if you need Bergie's assistance then you must catch him during this week. He will be away after that.15:58
JaffaNo, thank you :)15:58
JaffaAnything else on 9.06-07 karma for apps' formula?15:59
JimiDinisopi: now that I have access, I will be able to deal with it myself15:59
JimiDiniJaffa: nope15:59
JaffaIf not, 9.06-06 is jeremiah with another 40 packages... as a "must" (odd, I thought it was a should, but perhaps I'm remembering the wrong meeting)15:59
jeremiahI thought it was a should too.16:01
jeremiahWhich is why I hadn't been focusing on it.16:01
jeremiah:-/16:01
JaffaLet's assume it's an admin error and should be a SHOULD (unless X-Fade says different)16:01
X-FadeI don't think it matters much, we've seen a lot of apps coming to Fremantle.16:01
JaffaTrue.16:01
X-FadeAnd blindly porting them over is starting to hurt us.16:02
jeremiahI think X-Fade wants maemian checks more.16:02
jeremiahI can port some via maemian testing as well.16:02
X-FadeI already regret bringing some old libs over myself.16:02
Jaffajeremiah: OK, so let's drop 9.06-06 and focus on minimae and maemian16:02
Jaffa?16:02
jeremiahJaffa: Cool.16:02
jeremiahSounds good to me.16:02
X-FadeWe should do a cleanup run where we remove libs that are older than the SDK versions.16:03
jeremiahX-Fade: I would like a clear idea of what type of checks you want so that I can fulfill expectations.16:03
jeremiahDon't have to tell me now16:03
jeremiahBut we should discuss that.16:03
X-Fadejeremiah: Let's create a list after this meeting and add them to the wiki page.16:03
jeremiahCool.16:03
JaffaCool.16:03
JaffaMoving on to 9.06-10: dneary MUST 0% "library.gnome.org use debs rather than tgzs"?16:04
dnearyHi16:04
dnearyYes, no progress to report16:04
dnearyAs I said in email yesterday16:04
dnearyAnd no progress expected in August16:04
JaffaSo it should be dropped to the backlog16:05
Jaffa?16:05
dnearyI'm going on holiday tomorrow evening, and expect to be inundated with Maemo Summit & council election stuff on my return16:05
dnearyIf that's what the sprint rules say16:05
dnearyI'm still unclear on the process we're supposed to be following, sorry :)16:05
Jaffadneary: Well, it certainly can't stay a MUST - and a SHOULD or COULD when it's not going to be worked on is misleading as well :)16:06
dnearyOkay then16:06
Jaffadneary: We'll get on to the new tasks shortly.16:07
Jaffadanielwilms: SSO? 9.07-01?16:07
danielwilmsalmost there16:07
danielwilmssingle sign out does not work yet16:07
Jaffadanielwilms: Staying as a SHOULD or going up to MUST?16:07
danielwilmsmust16:08
dnearySorry - stepping to the toilet for a sec.16:08
JaffaOK, cool.16:08
JaffaStskeeps: 9.06-09 - Vendor Hardware Repos: decide subtasks. Says 0%, accurate?16:08
Stskeepsaccurate16:08
* Jaffa is not planning on going through the coulds in detail. So if anyone has anything to add on them, just shout.16:08
JaffaStskeeps: Staying in as a SHOULD?16:09
Stskeepsyep, i hope to get more in this month :)16:09
JaffaCool.16:09
JaffaAnything on any COULDs from anyone?16:10
jeremiahI have no could stuff. 16:10
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Andy80hi16:10
Jaffahi Andy80 16:10
VDVsxjeremiah, yes, you have :)16:10
dnearyback16:11
jeremiahVDVsx: Sorry, I meant to say I have nothing to add. ;)16:11
JaffaOK, moving on to new tasks then. We've got some new ones above, and I imagine - as dneary said - some people focusing on summit and/or election taking up some time.16:11
VDVsxjeremiah, :)16:11
X-FadeJaffa: I like to propose discussion importing for Karma. And fix all open karma issues for the Nemein guys.16:12
X-FadeAs we need the karma for summit sponsor and elections.16:12
qgil+116:13
JaffaX-Fade: Having a discussion now? Or a task about imprting "discussion karma"?16:14
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X-FadeJaffa: Re-import discussions so Karma is fixed.16:14
JaffaAh, OK.16:14
sopiX-Fade: "discussion karma" MUST be implemented in next Sprint16:15
JaffaWho owns those tasks?16:15
sopiThere is a bug report on that, but we seemed to forget about the bugs.16:15
JaffaAnd is "fix all open karma issues" realistic (one for the Nemein guys to answer)?16:15
sopiJaffa: put my name to it. 16:15
X-FadeJaffa: Well, I don't know of many open issues.16:15
X-FadeJaffa: Other than the mail import one.16:15
dnearyHow off is the mail import one?16:16
sopiJaffa: I will find help, JimiDini perhaps will give me a hand after the "application karma" is done.16:16
dnearyIs there anyone who would otherwise be elligible to be a candidate (for example) who isn't because of this bug?16:16
X-Fadedneary: 50% orso?16:16
Jaffasopi: OK, so your going to have: MUST "re-import discussion karma" and MUST "fix any other karma issues"?16:16
JimiDinisopi: I will do my best, though I think I have another "must" task this spring (integration of midgard at maemo.org with SSO)16:17
JimiDinis/spring/sprint/16:17
sopiJaffa: yes, correct.16:17
X-Fadedneary: lardman is missing about 130 karma because of this, for example.16:17
sopiJimiDini: ok, i will then outsource it to someone else. don't worry. :)16:17
JaffaSomeone else was missing a lot too (although details escape me)16:17
X-FadeBut anyway, that can be fixed with a re-import which takes quite some time to run. But it should not be that much work.16:18
danielwilmsJimiDini and we will discuss the API of the user-import sync?? then I can start integrating this16:19
Jaffadneary: I imagine your non-holiday time being basically BAU (where 'BAU' includes the elections & the content committee atm)16:19
sopiX-Fade: you will be my man. I will talk to you and then will do the re-import by myself.16:19
dnearyBAU?16:19
dnearyBusiness as usual?16:19
zerojaySorry to interupt, but what exactly is discussion karma affected by? Just posting on tmo or...? 16:19
dnearyYes, more or less16:20
JimiDinidanielwilms: a starter: http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Single_sign-on/UserManagement-API16:20
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dnearyAlthough neither of those are really BAU :)16:20
X-Fadezerojay: no, mailinglists.16:20
danielwilmsJimiDini great!16:20
Jaffadneary: Business-as-Usual. i.e. too odd/general/specific to have a task16:20
dnearyI'm also going to make sure that the community edits in the HIG get integrated upstream16:20
Jaffadneary: Ah, yes. That sounds like a task. SHOULD?16:20
timsamoffdneary: And remain synced with future edits. ;)16:20
dnearyJaffa: It's the remaining 10% on the task "Proofread the HIG"16:20
dnearywhich is already there16:20
timsamoffJaffa: 2% now.16:21
dnearytimsamoff: This will be serving as a test-case of keeping docs in sync16:21
Jaffadneary: Cool. Kept at COULD or moved up?16:21
dnearyI have some doubts16:21
dnearyMove to SHOULD16:21
Jaffadneary: OK, cool.16:21
Andy80question: are commits to SVN in any of the projects in the Garage, currently counted for karma?16:22
dnearytimsamoff: Also, I assume you have seen http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide ?16:22
timsamoffdneary: Yes.16:22
X-FadeAndy80: no16:22
X-FadeAndy80: Put your app in extras and in Downloads and you get karma from that.16:23
* Jaffa is going to make a MUST task for himself of identifying and/or communicating to tmo users to ensure they are aware of voting. There's an issue about account creation dates; but if someone has a talk.maemo.org account for 3 years and a maemo.org account for 2 weeks; I think they're included in both the letter and spirit of the "3 month rule"16:23
sopiAndy80: measuring commits is pretty nicely done by ohloh. wonder if we could import data from there somehow...16:24
danielwilmsdneary there was a request that we change the breadcrumbs...skip the "documentation"...but is this for anybody else a problem?!?...or is it ok to leave it like this and take the documentation page as an overview for further releases??16:24
X-FadeJaffa: Maybe we should not be too strict about it this time. Next time we will have merged user bases.16:24
dnearydanielwilms: I don't mind16:24
JaffaX-Fade: indeed. The practical details need to be worked out. Hopefully at some point account merging will be addressed (the current situation is probably long term untenable)16:25
dnearydanielwilms: The important thing is that it be available16:25
X-FadeJaffa: With SSO will come merging, so..16:25
dnearyThe question is, is there anything else on the Documentation page? Because it does seem redundant16:25
X-Fadedneary: There might be coming more.16:25
danielwilmsdneary: it will come16:25
Andy80X-Fade: counting Karma could make people move their projects to Garage, insted of developing them outside the garage and then publishing in Downloads... what do you think about?16:25
dnearyOK16:26
X-FadeAndy80: I woudn't care where it was developed? As long as the app was good and source available, hence Extras ;)16:26
X-FadeAndy80: Simply commit 1000 commits to gain karma is not doing anybody a favor.16:27
Andy80X-Fade: I don't mean it16:27
JimiDiniX-Fade: well, as long as the project is developed at garage it is acting as community-generator for maemo.org16:27
Andy80X-Fade: I mean that if a project is present in the garage, is something more like a "community developed" project16:27
sopiGuys, shall we take this "svn commits to karma" discussion offline?16:27
X-FadeJimiDini: Yeah, but we see projects opened for simple recompiles now. That doesn't help.16:27
X-Fadesopi: Agreed.16:28
qgilProposing for me: MUST Summit budget v0.99 - SHOULD: Draft quality guidelines to promote apps from extras-testing to extras - COULD: 9.06-14 Plan for the OMAP2 acceleration drivers (((staying as COULD since they don't depend on me)))16:28
Jaffaqgil: Cool. Will the draft quality guidelines feed into future maemian checks (where possible), or is it intended to be the more tester-focused stuff which we can't automatically check for?16:29
qgilJaffa: those guidelines are for humans16:29
jeremiahYeah, I will try to pick up that stuff and put it in maemian16:30
dnearyqgil: Some more MUSTs without names - I'd be interested in your feedback16:30
qgilany guideline that can be automated should be applied already in the jump from devel to testing16:30
jeremiahThat which is machine-able.16:30
dnearyApprove or reject outstanding travel funding requests 16:30
JaffaX-Fade: indeed, which is what mud's good for :)16:30
dnearyDepends on: finalise travel funding committee & process16:30
qgiltravel requests will be BAU I'm afraid until the very last week16:30
Jaffadneary: This being sponsorship for the summit for non-paid contributors?16:31
dneary(Jaffa's proposal to have guidelines + subjective judgement is good, the thing they're missing is probably the ball-park)16:31
dnearyJaffa: Yup16:31
qgildneary: I already sent to the council today a first budget they can count on for travel expenses (and marketing)16:31
dnearyAlso, we probably need an accommodation option to house funded attendees so that we know how much accommodation will cost16:31
X-FadeMaye a summit promotion task?16:31
Jaffadneary: Depends on Quim's budget, which is progressing. From what I've seen today, I'm guessing around the same number (maybe a dozen more)16:31
dnearyqgil: Cool16:31
qgilmaybe more budget will be available when we know more about other expenses16:31
dnearyX-Fade: Indeed, a Summit promotion task is also useful16:32
* Jaffa wonders which other council members are here he can delegate some stuff to...16:32
JaffaHmm. Just me or timsamoff 16:32
timsamoffJaffa: Lay it on me... Maybe. :p16:32
JaffaAnother MUST for me: drive the election process (although dneary does lots of work)16:32
Jaffatimsamoff: Acting as task owner for the summit council responsibilities (I'll help) would be useful. Handling qgil's emails etc.16:33
timsamoffqgil: After merchandise "items" are decided, who will take care of finding a vendor/printing/etc?16:33
dnearyJaffa: Bear in mind (as with content & other summit tasks) holidays16:33
timsamoffJaffa: Ok. Will do.16:34
Andy80someone proposed a good thing few days ago in talk.maemo.org: Nokia or the Council should reserve rooms in Hotels as soon as possible, to try to get a big discount16:34
qgiltimsamoff: I think the community can do better and cooler merchandising than Nokia in community mode...16:34
timsamoffqgil: Find someone in Summit location? (Last time everything was done in Germany, right?)16:34
qgilAndy80: I think that finding the right accommodation ioptions is a good task for our dearest council member in Amsterdam16:34
Jaffadneary: Indeed.16:35
X-FadeHeh ;)16:35
Andy80qgil: yes, good point.16:35
qgiltimsamoff: are you talking about finding accommodation or merchandising?16:35
timsamoffMerchandise. Sorry -- two conversations.16:35
Jaffaqgil: I'll talk to keesj about finding accomodation (distilling stuff like dneary's done on tmo)16:36
qgilmerchandising has two parts: design (can be done anywhere) and then production (the easiest part when you have the money, good to have a local to check things etc)16:36
timsamoffqgil: Ok.16:36
qgilI think keesj could also be the one for merchandising, unless he finds a good delegate16:37
JaffaWe'll have a discussion, but it sounds like Nokia wants the community (and so, if not offloaded by us or we get a volunteer, the council)16:37
qgilfor the production, the design shouldn't be a problem in a community able to come up with 67 mascots in a weekend16:37
timsamoffqgil: I'll take on organizing design on tmo -- thread already strated by you (IIRC). Then talk with Kees.16:37
Jaffaqgil: True. Does Nokia want any veto on trademark usage?16:37
Jaffatimsamoff: Cool16:38
dnearyqgil: Do we have a supplier in AMS?16:38
qgilJaffa: maemo.org logo and then it's about looking at the final work, but I don't foresee any problems within "common sense"16:38
Jaffaqgil: /me nods16:38
dnearyqgil: For production, I mean16:39
qgildneary: there are millions of shirts sold in Amsterdam, but I don't know more than that - westergas knows for sure16:39
dnearyI might get a couple of ideas16:39
timsamoffqgil & dneary: I'll speak with Kees about getting a list. I can email Westergas as well.16:40
JaffaCool. So that's election & summit tasks progressing. Karma bugs. Extras and other bits and bobs. Anyone want to push anything else this sprint? It feels like we're nearly at capacity16:40
* timsamoff has a request for sopi.16:41
sopitimsamoff: yes16:41
timsamoffFor the Sprint page Qaiku feeds....16:41
timsamoffIt's currently in a <ul>.16:41
VDVsxJaffa, don't forget a summit promotion/buzz task16:41
timsamoffCould we get an output of date and username before post?16:41
VDVsxI can help if needed16:41
timsamoffSomething more like an IRC output?16:41
JaffaVDVsx: OK, cool.16:42
VDVsxalso first banner by wazd: http://valeriovalerio.org/images/maemo_summit_banner1.png16:42
X-Fadetimsamoff: http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/maemork/ ?16:42
sopitimsamoff: should be doable.16:42
Jaffatimsamoff: It comes from the Atom feed, reprocessed via Yahoo! Pipes (by me) to turn it into RSS and then embedded into MediaWiki using the <rss /> extension16:42
dnearyJaffa: Are you going to announce the election date?16:42
timsamoffsopi: Cool. We don't need avatars or any crazy styling. Just a little more info.16:43
dnearyJaffa: I'd like to be able to plan for candidate lists and the like16:43
Jaffadneary: Yes.16:43
timsamoffsopi: would you be comfortable adding this as a COULD?16:43
Jaffatimsamoff: Do you want a separate summit "buzz" task owned by VDVsx, with yours being more adminey?16:43
timsamoffSure. VDVsx has been doing an amazing job already! :)16:43
sopitimsamoff: I will probably talk to Jaffa and see how this is done now. I can get it as a COULD, yes.16:44
dnearyJaffa: Great16:44
timsamoffsopi: Thanks.16:44
JaffaVDVsx: Summit buzz task: MUST. Probably one of "create buzz" or "sort out promotion plan" ;-)16:44
Jaffasopi: sounds like a plan16:44
dnearytimsamoff: Just curious, what buzzy stuff have we done so far?16:44
Jaffadneary: I'll talk with you a bit more out-of-band16:44
timsamoffVDVsx has been Tweeting and posting on tmo.16:44
timsamoffBlog posts too?16:45
dnearyOK16:45
timsamoffhttp://twitter.com/#search?q=%23maesum16:45
timsamoff(It'd be cool to have a Twitter live feed somewhere on m.o similar to the Qaiku feed!) ;)16:45
VDVsxyup,please use Tim's hash tag for the summit twits16:46
VDVsx#maesum :)16:46
Jaffatimsamoff: Sticking an RSS feed of #maesum on the summit page is trivial.16:46
JaffaAOB?16:46
timsamoffCould we add it as a SHOULD then?16:46
Jaffatimsamoff: I'll do it this afternoon ;-p16:46
Jaffai.e. before I've written up the minutes16:47
qgiler... are we done with the strict meeting?16:47
timsamoffJaffa: Awesome!16:47
Jaffatimsamoff: BTW: http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Summit_2009#Latest_News :-)16:49
timsamoffJaffa: Well, dang. ;)16:49
VDVsxlol16:49
JaffaSomeone more than welcome to restyle the page to be a more bit front pagey.16:49
JaffaAnyway, thanks all. That seems to be it, as everyone's gone quiet.16:50
JaffaI'll write these up on the wiki and send out a notice to maemo-community, and anyone committed to a task, when I've done it.16:50
timsamoffJaffa: Thank you!16:50
sopiThanks Jaffa and thanks to all!16:50
JimiDiniJaffa: did my task about integrating maemo.org with SSO get into the list? :)16:50
VDVsxqgil, btw, nokia will do some marketing/promotion of to summit also ?16:50
JaffaJimiDini: It did. Well, I saw it go past, and I go through the minutes again with a fine tooth comb :)16:51
danielwilmsok...bye bye16:51
JimiDinigreat16:51
JimiDinithanks all. bye :)16:51
sopibye! 16:51
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andre__bye16:51
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jeremiahCiao!16:52
qgilVDVsx: yes, but now they are concentrating promoting Nokia World  ;)16:52
X-Fadeqgil: Ah that small event, we should be much larger ;)16:53
VDVsxlol16:53
JaffaAnd more exciting!16:53
timsamoff;D16:53
dnearyThanks all! Bye.16:54
qgilmore seriously, VDVsx Nokia will help contacting and inviting some on-topic media, and also through the Maemo channel of company partners, other units...16:55
qgilthey are interested in Fremantle, but also in Harmattan16:55
jeremiahCool.16:55
jeremiahPeople from Intel for example?16:55
dnearyjeremiah: I've been thinking of that for a community keynote16:56
jeremiahI think there is a lot of synergy between us and Moblin.16:57
VDVsxoh, if someone has ideas for a good keynote, please shot16:57
VDVsxdneary, we can also ask in tmo16:57
timsamoffBye!16:59
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dnearyVDVsx: We don't have a huge amount of time if we want to invite someone good17:01
dnearyVDVsx: And you can lose a lot of time brainstorming a list of great speakers who aren't available17:01
dnearyThe added advantage of AMS is that there are some really great projects not far from us17:02
VDVsxdneary, true17:02
qgilalright, bye!17:04

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