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| qgil | hi GeneralAntilles | 20:57 |
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| qgil | if you want I can still facilitate today | 20:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | That works for me. | 20:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | I'm feeling a bit underprepared anyway, and I've got council members bailing on me left and right. ;) | 20:58 |
| qgil | ok | 20:59 |
| X-Fade | Let's try to talk tekojo into that role next month ;) | 20:59 |
| qgil | about to close http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/October_08 | 20:59 |
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| X-Fade | Tero will be here later on the evening. | 21:00 |
| GeneralAntilles | I'm gonna pick up a task this month that should make it easier next time around. ;) | 21:00 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/October_08 protected from editing - ready to start :) | 21:00 |
| etrunko | right on time | 21:00 |
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| qgil | wow, etrunko :) | 21:00 |
| qgil | can we please have a log updated this time? thanks! | 21:01 |
| etrunko | qgil: booo | 21:01 |
| dneary | Hi all | 21:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | etrunko makes it and lardman, Jaffa, and timsamoff bail. ;) | 21:01 |
| dneary | I'm going to be a little late - I'll be here in 10, and I'll catch up | 21:01 |
| qgil | updated means uploaded | 21:01 |
| * etrunko will do | 21:01 | |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/October_08#Tasks | 21:02 |
| qgil | any comments on the tasks marked as DONE? | 21:02 |
| qgil | better said, any objections? | 21:02 |
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| bergie | seems OK | 21:03 |
| etrunko | Peres: hey miguel | 21:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | Looks great to me. Much better completion rate this time around. | 21:03 |
| qgil | ok | 21:03 |
| X-Fade | I think we managed to get some hard things done this month. | 21:03 |
| qgil | any objections about moving the rest of tasks to the following sprint? | 21:03 |
| qgil | (yes, although the extra week helped getting that table much greener) ;) | 21:04 |
| bergie | I wanted to be 100% on both of my tasks, but then X-Fade and tekojo hijacked me to the "Fast Server" stuff :-) | 21:04 |
| qgil | X-Fade himself was hijacked | 21:04 |
| X-Fade | bergie: Excuses ;) | 21:04 |
| X-Fade | I worked on the Fast Server task and I really didn't want to. ;) | 21:04 |
| bergie | well, at least we got the optimized stuff packaged (not yet on the servers though, which is why they're still slow) | 21:05 |
| qgil | ok, what I'll do is to put in red everything that got no green | 21:05 |
| qgil | and red will be also the default color of the tasks carried from previous threads | 21:05 |
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| qgil | then you change the color at your will | 21:05 |
| qgil | lt me 2 mins and I'll copy the new table | 21:06 |
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| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/November_08#Tasks | 21:08 |
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| qgil | I'll put it 100% tomato later | 21:08 |
| qgil | anybody wants to reformulate any of these tasks or should we keep them as they are now? | 21:08 |
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| qgil | oook | 21:09 |
| X-Fade | I think that my http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Reducing_number_of_external_repositories is a longer term goal. But still, I'm making progress. | 21:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | ^ impressive amount of progress so far. | 21:09 |
| etrunko | I want to help dneary on http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Content_Cleanup#Development | 21:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | Arguably it's really a completed task, since the ball is no longer in X-Fade's court. | 21:10 |
| X-Fade | Well, I can always follow up and push more. | 21:10 |
| andre__ | well, i need to reformulate my "Push Better organization of bugs.maemo.org components to 70%" task - like "Sort out last unclear issues, come up with implementation plan" | 21:10 |
| qgil | ok, do you mind editing this yourself now? | 21:10 |
| qgil | andre__: ^ | 21:11 |
| qgil | any tasks directly derived from the tasks done at http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/October_08#Tasks | 21:11 |
| andre__ | will do | 21:11 |
| qgil | for instance, next step for Community page? | 21:11 |
| qgil | ok wait | 21:11 |
| qgil | let's make th round now | 21:11 |
| dneary | hi | 21:12 |
| qgil | X-Fade: any more tasks? | 21:12 |
| dneary | here now | 21:12 |
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| bergie | qgil: thanks to having Hirvinen around, we can take a little bit more this Sprint | 21:12 |
| bergie | ...if there is anything of interest | 21:13 |
| X-Fade | qgil: I'm kind of reluctant as the Fast Server task is still asking a lot of time from me. | 21:13 |
| qgil | X-Fade: makes sense | 21:13 |
| X-Fade | But on the other hand, Ed and I want to do some autobuilder improvements etc. | 21:13 |
| bergie | I agree that Fast Server is the main priority, though... as doing new stuff doesn't make sense before the site is fast | 21:13 |
| qgil | as said, if someone gets bored there is always the backlog, the bugs, the proposals... | 21:13 |
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| qgil | andre__: | 21:14 |
| dneary | OK - fully caught up :) | 21:14 |
| andre__ | status report, i assume? | 21:15 |
| qgil | andre__: ?? | 21:15 |
| qgil | you have two tasks commited at http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/November_08#Tasks | 21:15 |
| qgil | anything else? | 21:15 |
| andre__ | I'd like to work on https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3846 , but that's not high priority | 21:16 |
| andre__ | but something to do when i have some time left | 21:16 |
| andre__ | bugzilla reorg and feature jam are more important | 21:16 |
| qgil | review to bugs will come later but if you wish you can set priority to high now | 21:16 |
| andre__ | that's all. ok. | 21:16 |
| qgil | ok | 21:16 |
| qgil | bergie: | 21:17 |
| bergie | yep | 21:17 |
| qgil | you have still one ITt task | 21:17 |
| bergie | yes... and I'm helping with Fast Server | 21:17 |
| qgil | if you want to get more for nemein, let's start at http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_backlog | 21:17 |
| bergie | but if you have additional stuff for Hirvinen_ to do :-) | 21:17 |
| X-Fade | I want to propose mediawiki karma for next sprint too. | 21:18 |
| qgil | you introduced him but, what is Hirvinen_ ś profile (hi!) | 21:18 |
| bergie | qgil: programmer, sysadmin | 21:18 |
| bergie | maybe application karma? | 21:19 |
| qgil | sounds good to me | 21:19 |
| bergie | in bugzilla there's bunch of low/medium tickets too | 21:19 |
| qgil | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2179 | 21:19 |
| bergie | wide article, commenting to comments | 21:19 |
| qgil | this one is HIGH and assigned to X-Fade since... Do you want to take it? | 21:20 |
| qgil | you = Hirvinen_ | 21:20 |
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| bergie | heh, he doesn't seem awake | 21:20 |
| qgil | wow guenther is alive! | 21:20 |
| GeneralAntilles | ! | 21:20 |
| guenther | :) | 21:20 |
| X-Fade | That is basically karma for applications. | 21:20 |
| bergie | but yeah, I'll coach him with that | 21:20 |
| * GeneralAntilles launches a volley of tasks at guenther. :P | 21:21 | |
| bergie | app catalog is anyway a very important part | 21:21 |
| guenther | sorry, saw something shiney and got distracted | 21:21 |
| qgil | ok, please reassign the bug yourselves | 21:21 |
| bergie | will do | 21:21 |
| bergie | another thing is the latex-based documentation import | 21:21 |
| bergie | we did it in October but it isn't deployed yet | 21:21 |
| qgil | are you in sync with Jarmo on this? | 21:21 |
| bergie | yes | 21:22 |
| bergie | or actually rambo is... I'm just helping him with the implementation | 21:22 |
| qgil | this is about official docs and 100% Nokia work, let's not mix it hre since at least myself I'm not aware of Jarmo's deadlines | 21:22 |
| bergie | ok, we can keep it off this channel | 21:23 |
| qgil | but of course great if you have it ready in November | 21:23 |
| bergie | I just thought it might be a good idea to mention it | 21:23 |
| bergie | qgil: the code is already there | 21:23 |
| bergie | but no sense to deploy before we go ragnaroek (fast server, scheduled for next week) | 21:23 |
| qgil | sure, as a background for the rest this is one piece of https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101 | 21:23 |
| qgil | anything else bergie? | 21:24 |
| bergie | so... itt feeds, app karma, commenting comments, fast server, latex doc import | 21:24 |
| qgil | sounds like a busy sprint | 21:24 |
| bergie | considered that Midgard Gathering steals almost a week from this month, that should be a good chunk of work :-) | 21:25 |
| qgil | ok | 21:25 |
| bergie | well, if we cannot make all of them there is always the backlog | 21:25 |
| qgil | dneary: any task to add to http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/November_08#Tasks | 21:25 |
| dneary | qgil: I'd settle for getting the website update done | 21:25 |
| qgil | website update done? | 21:26 |
| dneary | qgil: It needs to be broken up into smaller chunks, of course | 21:26 |
| bergie | BTW, when should we prepare for the new layout of maemo.org etc? | 21:26 |
| dneary | refresh/relook + Development + Community + Support pages | 21:26 |
| qgil | what chunks for November | 21:26 |
| dneary | qgil: Finalise layout & stylesheets for maemo.org | 21:26 |
| dneary | Finalise layout for maemo.org/development | 21:27 |
| dneary | Finalise layout for maemo.org/support | 21:27 |
| dneary | Finalise layout for maemo.org/community | 21:27 |
| dneary | And we need to deploy all that | 21:27 |
| qgil | are you behind the 4 tasks? | 21:27 |
| dneary | So once the design is ready, the work with Nemein getting this implemented in the CMS will start | 21:27 |
| dneary | Tim is behind community | 21:27 |
| etrunko | dneary: may I help you on the development front? | 21:28 |
| bergie | dneary: it would be great to have some (even sketchy) idea of when that would be :-) | 21:28 |
| qgil | then, what about this months for having everything ready in design, so Nemein can work almost without dependencies next month? | 21:28 |
| dneary | etrunko: I think we have a good idea of the content that needs to go in there | 21:28 |
| dneary | What I need now is a designer :) | 21:28 |
| etrunko | dneary: that's why Peres and glaubertsouza are here for. | 21:28 |
| dneary | qgil: OK, let's aim for that | 21:29 |
| bergie | qgil: kind of off-topic, but you're not the no 1. karma person on maemo.org any longer now that ITT is counted :-) | 21:29 |
| qgil | etrunko & co, note that in this meeting we look only for the persons that commit to accomplish a task | 21:29 |
| bergie | +1 for implementing the layout in Dec | 21:29 |
| qgil | who don't need to necessarily b the ones doing all the work | 21:29 |
| qgil | or even "the" work | 21:29 |
| GeneralAntilles | bergie, fanoush overshot him a while ago with the discussion karma. ;) | 21:29 |
| qgil | as far as they get the task done by the end of the sprint - fine | 21:29 |
| qgil | we don't ask how thay do it B) | 21:29 |
| bergie | I need to check with Janne and Emilia how we're doing hours-wise | 21:29 |
| dneary | Although I think it's pessimistic, if we can settle on a way of getting things done | 21:30 |
| dneary | etrunko: Great! | 21:30 |
| dneary | (I mean, a month for the design work is pessimistic) | 21:30 |
| qgil | bergie: have you fixed the bug that makes me have 6 points for discussion ? ;) | 21:30 |
| dneary | I'd expect us to have some things we'd like to get implemented sooner | 21:30 |
| dneary | In maybe a couple of weeks | 21:30 |
| dneary | ping? | 21:30 |
| etrunko | qgil: I see... the good part of commiting to a task is to have the responsability of getting it done | 21:31 |
| bergie | qgil: I need to re-seek all discussion authors, it seems there is still something weird with those | 21:31 |
| GeneralAntilles | dneary, I think you're a little lagged. | 21:31 |
| dneary | GeneralAntilles: Microwave effect | 21:31 |
| dneary | It is killing my wifi connection | 21:31 |
| qgil | dneary: "a month for the design work is pessimistic" but on the other hand you are counting on Nmein concluding the implementation when bergie is already full | 21:31 |
| etrunko | stop cooking then ;) | 21:31 |
| dneary | bergie: I do expect there to need to be some discussion between the designers & developers | 21:31 |
| qgil | if you need just one week to get your task done, fine | 21:32 |
| dneary | I don't think it's going to split into 2 nicely compartmentalised tasks | 21:32 |
| bergie | dneary: most likely. When are they making the XHTML+CSS? | 21:32 |
| qgil | rnewing the whole maemo.org in 3 months doesn't sound pessimistic to me at all | 21:32 |
| dneary | qgil: Not completing the implementation, but I think we'll definitely need some resources working on the implementation in November | 21:33 |
| Peres | Who is going to do the css/xhtml, a designer or a dev? | 21:33 |
| dneary | OK - let's go with that to be brief - design work in Nov, implementation & deployment in Dec | 21:34 |
| qgil | dneary: on the other hand, you probably don't need a core Midgard hacker to start such implementation, isn't it | 21:34 |
| bergie | qgil: indeed... the point is that knowing some things in Midgard helps :-) | 21:34 |
| dneary | bergie: My goal is to get at least 2 or 3 different proposals, choose from those over the next couple of weeks, and have HTML+CSS sometime in the week starting the 24th | 21:35 |
| bergie | dneary: ok... if you can hook me up with the people working on the HTML then, we'll be fine | 21:35 |
| qgil | dneary: you'll have Novmber full with that | 21:35 |
| dneary | great | 21:35 |
| qgil | ok, anything else dneary | 21:36 |
| dneary | No, I don't think so | 21:37 |
| qgil | tim not here | 21:37 |
| dneary | There are a bunch of pages that I'd like to update like I did with the bluetooth networking page today, but I'll handle those in the background | 21:37 |
| qgil | GeneralAntilles: any task for November? | 21:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yes, I'd like to pick up 3 new ones | 21:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Packaging_policy_proposed_changes http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Document_the_maemo.org_Sprint_procedure http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Define_voting_procedure_for_Community_Council_elections | 21:38 |
| qgil | sounds good | 21:39 |
| dneary | Oh - I would like to add one other thing | 21:39 |
| qgil | tero not here yet | 21:39 |
| qgil | dneary: yes | 21:39 |
| dneary | I'd like to get the karma metric updated | 21:40 |
| dneary | I have a proposal for it already, just need to cook up a patch | 21:40 |
| dneary | There should be a bug for it? | 21:40 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Hi, Tim! | 21:41 |
| timsamoff | Hey -- don't know how long I can stay. | 21:41 |
| qgil | dneary: I suggest that you have enough flesh this month... | 21:41 |
| dneary | hi timsamoff | 21:42 |
| qgil | if you want to do that, fine of course | 21:42 |
| X-Fade | dneary: http://wiki.maemo.org/Karma | 21:42 |
| glaubertsouza | Hi Tim! | 21:42 |
| dneary | X-Fade: I believe I also created a proposal page | 21:42 |
| qgil | but committing to the sprint seems a higher risk for Tomato | 21:42 |
| qgil | let's go for timsamoff now that he is hre | 21:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | I'd be worried about the karma discussion going a bit long. | 21:43 |
| bergie | dneary: talk to me over where to patch the karma stuff | 21:43 |
| dneary | bergie: ok | 21:43 |
| qgil | timsamoff: we are reviewing http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/November_08#Tasks | 21:43 |
| qgil | do you want to get any task this month? | 21:43 |
| timsamoff | qgil: I offered to dneary that I take on rewriting the Support page; I see that I'm on the design "panel." That's good. | 21:45 |
| X-Fade | I would suggest for dneary, timsamoff, glaubertsouza etc. to discuss design issues here at a later date. | 21:45 |
| dneary | X-Fade: Probably a good idea | 21:46 |
| dneary | Although it would be good to have qgil and/or tero here too | 21:46 |
| qgil | dneary: I can stay, yes | 21:46 |
| qgil | ok, my turn | 21:46 |
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| qgil | I'll pick http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Brainstorming_new_features from the backlog - having a plan at the end of the month | 21:47 |
| dneary | qgil: Not sure if timsamoff can stick around, though | 21:47 |
| timsamoff | (I'll try.) | 21:47 |
| qgil | then I have promised http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Texts_for_maemo.nokia.com to Jussi | 21:47 |
| timsamoff | qgil: I can help with that if you need it. | 21:48 |
| qgil | and http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Collaboration_infrastructure should get started, for instance around a specific case, the App Manager | 21:48 |
| qgil | I expect this later one to be one of the big topics in 1H2009 | 21:49 |
| qgil | that's it | 21:49 |
| X-Fade | Really looking forward to that one! | 21:49 |
| dneary | qgil: I'd also like to help with that if I can | 21:49 |
| qgil | sure, all help is needed | 21:49 |
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| qgil | even without Nokia it would be a complex task ;) | 21:49 |
| dneary | "that one" being the maemo.nokia.com text | 21:50 |
| dneary | hi tekojo | 21:50 |
| tekojo | Hi | 21:50 |
| qgil | ah, I was talking about http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Collaboration_infrastructure | 21:50 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Texts_for_maemo.nokia.com needs to be delivered in 10 days actually | 21:50 |
| dneary | That relates to that mail I sent to the community list today... | 21:51 |
| dneary | collab infrastructure, I mean | 21:51 |
| timsamoff | qgil: if you need proofing or otherwise, send it on to me and dneary. | 21:51 |
| timsamoff | (Well, post it, I mean.) :p | 21:51 |
| qgil | timsamoff: not only proofing, the whole writing is open to community collaboration | 21:51 |
| qgil | ok, now that we have tekojo - hi! | 21:52 |
| qgil | you have one task at http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/November_08#Tasks | 21:52 |
| tekojo | Hi Quim | 21:52 |
| qgil | any other task you want to take for the November sprint? | 21:52 |
| bergie | hi tekojo | 21:52 |
| tekojo | wait a sec, slow browser start on the tablet | 21:53 |
| timsamoff | qgil: Ok. | 21:53 |
| qgil | ok, moving forward - tekojo feel free to interrupt once you are ready | 21:55 |
| tekojo | open. actually I would open a new item there git preparations for garage | 21:55 |
| qgil | cool | 21:55 |
| qgil | question: at the end we would have one big git.maemo.org or many small gits for each garage project? | 21:56 |
| qgil | please have everything defined in a wiki page to allow discussion and watching | 21:56 |
| tekojo | Under consideration, but probably many | 21:56 |
| tekojo | yes I will | 21:56 |
| qgil | I don't want to get into details here, but think that this is related to http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Collaboration_infrastructure | 21:57 |
| qgil | and we need that central place to put all the Maemo SW code from Nokia | 21:57 |
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| qgil | ok, so what is the task you ar committing for this month? | 21:57 |
| tekojo | technical preparations for git | 21:58 |
| qgil | Is this something that can be measured as DONE? | 21:58 |
| tekojo | server infra and garage preparation | 21:59 |
| tekojo | yes, it is done when we can say exactly what is needed to get git up on maemo.org | 21:59 |
| qgil | ok, I'm insisting only because of the previous times we had vague descriptions of tasks: in most cases they ended up NOT DONE | 21:59 |
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| qgil | good | 21:59 |
| tekojo | so it is more of a paper output, I know | 22:00 |
| etrunko | actually http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Collaboration_infrastructure its a monster, we should break it in more tasks | 22:00 |
| tekojo | not the best thing inthe world, but I need some docs too | 22:00 |
| qgil | docs are good | 22:00 |
| qgil | when they are good :) | 22:00 |
| tekojo | exactly | 22:00 |
| qgil | etrunko: I'm proposing having an initial plan in November, do you see this still too big? | 22:01 |
| etrunko | qgil: for a initial plan it seems ok | 22:01 |
| qgil | an initial plan to solve the open development of e.g. the Application Manager, that's what I said - not even the whole picture | 22:01 |
| etrunko | good | 22:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | Should be a fun result. | 22:01 |
| etrunko | may I? | 22:02 |
| qgil | etrunko: what? | 22:02 |
| etrunko | get this task | 22:02 |
| qgil | sure, be my guest | 22:02 |
| etrunko | great | 22:02 |
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| tekojo | as long as you bug me with what we end up needing | 22:03 |
| etrunko | tekojo: i will | 22:03 |
| etrunko | it's so related to the work i've been doing here recently | 22:03 |
| qgil | tekojo: you will bug yourself about the conclusions you helped reaching ;) | 22:03 |
| tekojo | I know :-) | 22:04 |
| etrunko | :) | 22:04 |
| qgil | ok, all this was for the tasks of people already involved in sprints | 22:04 |
| qgil | now it's time for new people | 22:04 |
| qgil | etrunko started the list -- good | 22:04 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_backlog | 22:04 |
| qgil | this backlog needs some love and revision | 22:04 |
| qgil | anybody wants to commit to one of the tasks there | 22:05 |
| etrunko | yeah it seems quite outdated.. | 22:05 |
| qgil | don't pay much attention to the names currently listed - if you have the time and will raise your hand | 22:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | We can probably drop #5 | 22:05 |
| qgil | GeneralAntilles: agreed, these are being handled via bugzilla | 22:06 |
| etrunko | the items should be organized by priority and so... | 22:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | #7 has been split and is being handled. | 22:06 |
| qgil | and http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages provides a "framework" for opening requests | 22:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | guenther, any chance on #10 this month? | 22:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | #2 seems to be covered by the Bug and Feature Jars. | 22:07 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Using_garage.maemo.org is a 100 Days task but ferenc seems to be quite busy/missing | 22:07 |
| dneary | I'm wondering what my name is doing beside #9 - I don't recall taking that one on | 22:08 |
| guenther | hmm, not committing to this, but yeah, I could try toget something done for #10 | 22:08 |
| GeneralAntilles | guenther, I'd really like to have Bugzilla ready to track for Canola by the time its source is released. | 22:08 |
| guenther | err, that isn't the problem | 22:08 |
| qgil | dneary: see the "?" | 22:09 |
| X-Fade | qgil: Ferenc will probably be back soon, tekojo will have more details probably :) | 22:09 |
| guenther | Migration from garage is. | 22:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | guenther, oh? | 22:09 |
| qgil | anyway, Plan for Publishing API docs blong nowadays more to tekojo 's area | 22:09 |
| tekojo | yes, push #9 on me | 22:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | guenther, can't projects just migrate their own bugs manually (or not)? | 22:09 |
| tekojo | it's actually a problem of the team I work in | 22:09 |
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| * etrunko is getting scared | 22:10 | |
| timsamoff | Hehe1 | 22:10 |
| qgil | ferenc, a little bird called you? :) | 22:10 |
| etrunko | people talked about timsamoff and he suddenly appears | 22:10 |
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| etrunko | now ferenc | 22:10 |
| etrunko | ;P | 22:11 |
| guenther | GeneralAntilles: Depends on the number of bugs. | 22:11 |
| X-Fade | It wasn't me! | 22:11 |
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| ferenc | hi everybody. | 22:11 |
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| qgil | anyway, we were wondering about the first item at the backlog http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_backlog | 22:11 |
| ferenc | qgil: yes | 22:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | guenther, well, the Hacker Edition projects are the only ones with a significant number of bugs. | 22:11 |
| bergie | qgil: I was having a chat with him anyway so I mentioned this :-) | 22:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | etrunko, how attached are you to your existing reports in Garage? | 22:11 |
| etrunko | GeneralAntilles: which ones? | 22:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?group_id=125 | 22:12 |
| qgil | ferenc: are you in a situation of committing to any task/bug this month or not yet? | 22:12 |
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| qgil | (also, I will clean the backlog later based on all your comments a while ago) | 22:13 |
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| qgil | any more comments on http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_backlog ? | 22:14 |
| ferenc | qgil: i can commit to one bug, let me find its ID. it is about the viewcvs thingy.. | 22:14 |
| * GeneralAntilles lowercases the page title. | 22:14 | |
| timsamoff | GeneralAntilles has OCD. :p\ | 22:15 |
| etrunko | GeneralAntilles: to be frank, most of the items assigned to me seem to be installation issues caused by server instability... they are marked as "awaiting response" but the reporter never comes back.. | 22:15 |
| etrunko | and, i'm really not keen on the garage tracker | 22:15 |
| etrunko | :) | 22:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | etrunko, I know the feeling. ;) | 22:15 |
| ferenc | qgil: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3794 | 22:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | guenther, can we discuss this in depth at some point soon? | 22:16 |
| qgil | ok guys, can you discuss this offline etrunko GeneralAntilles | 22:16 |
| guenther | GeneralAntilles: Sure. Right now isn't the best time, agreed. | 22:16 |
| etrunko | qgil: sir, yes sir. .o> | 22:16 |
| ferenc | qgil: this bothers me quite a bit. and i can tell you more than that tomorrow. | 22:16 |
| qgil | ok ferenc, then the 4 you have already as HIGH, should be demoted to MEDIUM or be given to someone else | 22:17 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/October_08#Bugs_in_product_Website | 22:17 |
| ferenc | qgil: allright. i try my best, but i want to do things step by step, after being away for a while... | 22:18 |
| qgil | then its better to have them MEDIUM and everything is clearer | 22:18 |
| qgil | no more comments about backlog, moving to http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_proposals | 22:18 |
| ferenc | qgil: maybe during the midgard gathering i can address the other HIGH ones. | 22:18 |
| qgil | of ferenc | 22:19 |
| qgil | ok | 22:19 |
| qgil | some of the tasks at http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_proposals have been already taken | 22:19 |
| qgil | any objections moving http://wiki.maemo.org/Getting_involved to backlog? | 22:20 |
| dneary | qgil: It seems related to Improving maemo.org/Community | 22:20 |
| timsamoff | qgil: Agreed. | 22:20 |
| qgil | ok | 22:21 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:donation_on_download_page - the debate is actually part of that collaboration infrastructure | 22:21 |
| qgil | I'm for moving it to backlog - which doesn't mean that we are accepting the feature itself | 22:22 |
| qgil | but meaning that we accept discussing it at some point | 22:22 |
| GeneralAntilles | Who was pushing that initially, anyway? | 22:22 |
| timsamoff | qgil: This should be debated as part of the collaboration function, yes. | 22:22 |
| qgil | GeneralAntilles: the person that created the wiki page | 22:22 |
| GeneralAntilles | qgil, clearly, but that's an IP address. :) | 22:22 |
| qgil | but jaffa is linking this to bounties, and I have to say that we get requests for a bounty system even now and then | 22:23 |
| qgil | and it would be good to discuss it and conclude something | 22:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | There's a bounty system on Garage. | 22:23 |
| X-Fade | Yes, let's discuss it. I think there will be some strong opinions on it. | 22:23 |
| qgil | well, the point of discussion I'm in th middle of is whether Nokia should put money on bounties, but this is another (related) story | 22:24 |
| qgil | backlog then | 22:24 |
| ferenc | X-Fade: if you need gbounty support you know where to find me ;) | 22:24 |
| qgil | and the rest of new proposals are being committed | 22:24 |
| qgil | no Reviewed tasks have been recovered, so it looks we are done with the tasks | 22:25 |
| qgil | ANYBODY WILLING TO COMMIT TO A TASK THIS SPRINT? your last chance befor jumping to bugs | 22:25 |
| timsamoff | With dneary's permission, I'll take the Support page. | 22:26 |
| qgil | http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/October_08#Bugs_in_product_Website | 22:26 |
| dneary | timsamoff: I'm happy to back you up if you want to be on point | 22:26 |
| timsamoff | Sounds good -- I'll add myself to the sprint table when I am back home next week. | 22:27 |
| qgil | any objection moving to November what is pending from October? W have discussed about ferenc s bugs already | 22:27 |
| X-Fade | No, please do so. | 22:27 |
| qgil | 20 bugs with MEDIUM priority: https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=maemo.org+Website&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=Medium&emailas | 22:28 |
| qgil | which ones get HIGH to be committed for Novmber? | 22:28 |
| GeneralAntilles | tinyurl bug links are in the topic. | 22:28 |
| qgil | ooops, I keep forgetting consistently | 22:29 |
| qgil | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1660 sounds as a natural inclusion as part of the maemo.org revamp | 22:29 |
| qgil | if not this month, it should be good to have it by next month | 22:30 |
| timsamoff | Sorry everyone... Gotta run. Let's plan a design meeting sometime next week. | 22:30 |
| qgil | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3177 is part of the Community page revamp | 22:30 |
| dneary | qgil: This is kind of my ambition for the Support page | 22:31 |
| timsamoff | (And, design related, imo) | 22:31 |
| dneary | 1660, I mean | 22:31 |
| timsamoff | Ok. Bye. I'll catch-up offline. | 22:31 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Is Nokia on track to be ready for the necessary disclaimer and trademark changes by the first of the year? https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3576 | 22:31 |
| Peres | qgil: Ok | 22:31 |
| qgil | GeneralAntilles: whenever maemo.nokia.com is launched | 22:32 |
| GeneralAntilles | OK | 22:32 |
| qgil | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3767 has been discussed many times - and didn't dneary implement it? | 22:33 |
| dneary | There is a patch | 22:33 |
| qgil | and https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3788 is being a pita - but we start needing someone to really get grasp of MediaWiki | 22:34 |
| dneary | I don't know if it ever got applied | 22:34 |
| dneary | qgil: It'll need to be someone with root on the server | 22:34 |
| X-Fade | dneary: We need to patch that upstream. But that is doable. | 22:34 |
| qgil | http://maemo.org/profile/view/thoughtfix/ has positive karma, so looks like yes | 22:35 |
| qgil | any objection having the bugs mentioned as HIGH? | 22:36 |
| qgil | any other bug to be pushed? | 22:36 |
| ferenc | qgil: i will look at that too in November. | 22:37 |
| ferenc | qgil: i mean the mediawiki thing; #3788 | 22:37 |
| qgil | ferenc: thanks | 22:37 |
| qgil | if there are not more comments... we are done | 22:37 |
| qgil | 5 | 22:38 |
| qgil | 4 | 22:38 |
| qgil | 3 | 22:38 |
| qgil | 2 | 22:38 |
| qgil | 1 | 22:38 |
| qgil | thank you! | 22:38 |
| X-Fade | Thanks! | 22:38 |
| tekojo | thanks | 22:38 |
| etrunko | rock on ;) | 22:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | High five! ;) | 22:38 |
| X-Fade | Tsssss http://maemo.org/profile/list/category/itt_thanks/ | 22:39 |
| qgil | please don't forget the log this time | 22:39 |
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| X-Fade | GA is going to the top! :) | 22:39 |
| * GeneralAntilles cackles some more. | 22:39 | |
| etrunko | where should we put the log? | 22:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | maemo.org/maemo-meeting | 22:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | X-Fade should have it. | 22:40 |
| * GeneralAntilles points at mm-logger | 22:40 | |
| X-Fade | No, no no. Log about your activities! | 22:40 |
| etrunko | ah | 22:40 |
| etrunko | that other log | 22:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ah, hehe. | 22:40 |
| qgil | I'll update the wiki page tomorrow morning | 22:40 |
| X-Fade | In http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/November_08, Activity log. | 22:41 |
| X-Fade | I will publish the log tomorrow too. | 22:41 |
| etrunko | X-Fade: the channel log you mean | 22:41 |
| X-Fade | etrunko: This time, yes :D | 22:42 |
| etrunko | so many logs, backlogs, | 22:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | blogs | 22:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | clogs | 22:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | Too much | 22:42 |
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