maemo-community

sms on harmattan

Felipe Crochik — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 03:59:42 +0000

Anybody knows of a replacement for the n900 Messaging ui dbus call?

This works on the n900 .... QDBusMessage msg = QDBusMessage::createMethodCall(

    "com.nokia.MessagingUI", // --dest

    "/com/nokia/MessagingUI", // destination object path

    "com.nokia.MessagingUI", // message name (w/o method)

    "messaging_ui_interface_start_sms" // method

);

msg << "sms:" + number;

msg = QDBusConnection::sessionBus().call(msg);

qDebug() << msg;

return msg.type() != QDBusMessage::ErrorMessage;

I wonder if there is something similar on harmattan so I can avoid dealing with telepathy. BTW, does anybody know of any harmattan specific information about telepathy?

Thanks, Felipe

Council Meeting minutes

RM Bauer — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:48:14 +0000

It has come to my attention that this week's Council Meeting was not announced on this mailing list. That should not have happened. Fortunately, the meeting was continued to another date with no decisions made on policy issues. The minutes are available herehttp://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/%23maemo-meeting.2012-01-12.log.html .

The outstanding topics are as follows: proposal to merge parts of harmattan into maemo Qt-style license agreement for maemo maintainership for the cssu-repo

Comments on any of these topics is still timely. Personally, I am particularly interested in technical comments from developers on the harmattan OBS and open mode.

Rob (SD69)

Re: Spam comments on the wiki

Michael Cronenworth — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 02:13:16 +0000

On 01/12/2012 11:05 AM, Andre Klapper wrote:

I wonder if those changes happen automatically (not really sure) and if some better protection should be introduced (and if it would help), such as CAPTCHAs. This has been discussed before, see https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3860 for some context. It's probably not the biggest issue, but annoying for those that spend time trying to keep the wiki clean of vandalism.

I know that the math captcha has been cracked. I use the same extension on my highly trafficked wiki.

I switched to the image captcha and that has stopped 99% of the spam link edits. However, there are still spam bots editing my wiki that I cannot stop. Instead of spamming links they just delete a majority of the page text. To block this I protect all effected pages for about 2 weeks and it stops it.

I've given up on the IP blocking. They use every open proxy on the earth to randomly attack you.

Re: Spam comments on the wiki

Tim Samoff — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 02:05:31 +0000

Anyone who follows pages on the wiki will be notified of edits... And anyone can admin those pages.

Of course the wiki has always had trouble recruiting help like this...

Tim

-- Sent from my Nokia N950On 1/12/12 4:10 PM robert bauer wrote: Hi Andre,

When the forum started getting inundated with spam, we addressed it by adding more moderators. Maybe we can do that with the wiki as well.

Rob

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Andre Klapper andre_klapper@gmx.net wrote:

Looking at http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&limit=500&days=30 you can see that spam comments are added rather often nowadays, both by registered accounts but mostly by anonymous edits. http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:Ipblocklist lists blocked accounts and IPs.

I wonder if those changes happen automatically (not really sure) and if some better protection should be introduced (and if it would help), such as CAPTCHAs. This has been discussed before, see https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3860 for some context. It's probably not the biggest issue, but annoying for those that spend time trying to keep the wiki clean of vandalism.

andre

Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/

Re: Spam comments on the wiki

RM Bauer — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:10:03 +0000

Hi Andre,

When the forum started getting inundated with spam, we addressed it by adding more moderators. Maybe we can do that with the wiki as well.

Rob

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Andre Klapper andre_klapper@gmx.netwrote:

Looking at

http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&limit=500&days=30 you can see that spam comments are added rather often nowadays, both by registered accounts but mostly by anonymous edits. http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:Ipblocklist lists blocked accounts and IPs.

I wonder if those changes happen automatically (not really sure) and if some better protection should be introduced (and if it would help), such as CAPTCHAs. This has been discussed before, see https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3860 for some context. It's probably not the biggest issue, but annoying for those that spend time trying to keep the wiki clean of vandalism.

andre

Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/

Re: Spam comments on the wiki

Tim Samoff — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:12:52 +0000

Hi Andre,

Andre Klapper wrote:

Looking at http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&limit=500&days=30 you can see that spam comments are added rather often nowadays, both by registered accounts but mostly by anonymous edits.

Yes, I've done my fair share of wiki Undos in the past months myself.

I wonder if those changes happen automatically (not really sure) and if some better protection should be introduced (and if it would help), such as CAPTCHAs.

I think with the current editing traffic that the wiki gets, any sort of spam protection is completely fine. The people who do actually care about updating the wiki are most likely those types who don't mind a few hoops in order to keep the content legit.

Imho, Tim

-- http://samoff.com

Spam comments on the wiki

Andre Klapper — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:05:00 +0000

andre

Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/

Re: Maemo Community / MeeGo Coding Competition 2011 voting

RM Bauer — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:45:21 +0000

Tim,

Thanks for your feedback. Cosimo (zehjotkah) wrote the email so I'll leave it to him to respond if he wants to, and the text was posted on t.m.o. for crowdsourcing http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1082239&postcount=587 as well. I haven't voted yet but from what I see the email says you can vote in each category.

There was also a previous complaint about the voting form not rendering well in Ubuntu Lucid that came to the council email account and I passed that on to Nemein. Additionally, for some reason, this message was sent from the council email account, and purported to be from council. In particular, someone changed the signature from "zehjotkah" to "Maemo Community Council". Although Council stepped in a few times to get the Coding Competition the help they needed from Nemein to take the vote, it was quite a surprise that the email was sent in this fashion.

In any event, thanks for continuing to contribute to the community by voting and commenting.

Rob

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Tim Samoff tim@samoff.com wrote:

Wow... That was a REALLY annoying process -- and very unclear too.

Who wrote, "choose your preferred project in order of preference"?

How are people supposed to know that they can vote in every category?

The layout of the voting was jumbled and hard to read.

That method of voting requires WAY too much thought for so many applications.

All categories and apps should have been on one page with radio buttons for the voter's choice.

Sorry, but this didn't work for me at all. :(

Tim

-- http://samoff.com

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Maemo Community / MeeGo Coding Competition 2011 voting Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:31:33 +0200 (EET) From: council@maemo.org To: tim@samoff.com

Dear Tim,

The voting of the Maemo Community / MeeGo Coding Competition 2011 is now open, and you have received this email as you are eligible to vote.

There are 9 different categories so you are able to vote 9 times - once in each category.

A full list of participants, the projects and screenshots can be found at: http://competition.meetmeego.org/categories

HOW TO VOTE

Voting will run from now until November 24th 2011, 23:59 UTC.

Your voting credentials are:
   URL: http://maemo.org/vote/
E-mail:
Vote token:

After authenticating yourself, you can choose your preferred project in order of preference. You will have an opportunity to verify and confirm your vote afterwards.

Once you have confirmed your vote, a unique secret identifier will be given to you which will allow you to verify after the voting that your vote was counted correctly.

Once you have voted, you will not be able to vote again.

Note: You have to use the same voting credentials for all the categories.

Thank you for your vote!

Regards, Maemo Community Council

Fwd: Maemo Community / MeeGo Coding Competition 2011 voting

Tim Samoff — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:18:53 +0000

Wow... That was a REALLY annoying process -- and very unclear too.

Who wrote, "choose your preferred project in order of preference"?
How are people supposed to know that they can vote in every category?
The layout of the voting was jumbled and hard to read.
That method of voting requires WAY too much thought for so many applications.
All categories and apps should have been on one page with radio buttons for the voter's choice.

Sorry, but this didn't work for me at all. :(

Tim

-- http://samoff.com

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Maemo Community / MeeGo Coding Competition 2011 voting Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:31:33 +0200 (EET) From: council@maemo.org To: tim@samoff.com

Dear Tim,

The voting of the Maemo Community / MeeGo Coding Competition 2011 is now open, and you have received this email as you are eligible to vote.

There are 9 different categories so you are able to vote 9 times - once in each category.

A full list of participants, the projects and screenshots can be found at: http://competition.meetmeego.org/categories

HOW TO VOTE

Voting will run from now until November 24th 2011, 23:59 UTC.

Your voting credentials are:

    URL: http://maemo.org/vote/
 E-mail:

Vote token:

After authenticating yourself, you can choose your preferred project in order of preference. You will have an opportunity to verify and confirm your vote afterwards.

Once you have confirmed your vote, a unique secret identifier will be given to you which will allow you to verify after the voting that your vote was counted correctly.

Once you have voted, you will not be able to vote again.

Note: You have to use the same voting credentials for all the categories.

Thank you for your vote!

Regards, Maemo Community Council

Re: Coding competition 2011 - mass emailing

Timo Härkönen — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:13:18 +0000

Mailing lists + tmo should reach enough people imo. Ofc you can advertize on twitter, fb and friends too.

-timo

Cosimo Kroll kirjoitti 10.11.2011 8:10:

The awareness. Who is reading the mailing lists in these days? Only small part of the new members who are interested in the Nokia N9.

-- Von meinem Nokia N950 gesendet

timop.harkonen@gmail.com schrieb am 10.11.11 07:07:

So what's wrong with a simple forum poll? Sure some people will have more than one account, etc but that wouldn't change the results that much. I'd guess someone can set the poll so that only accounts created before the competition ended can vote?

This way you only need to create the poll and send mail to the mailing lists. Simple and works.

-timo

andrew@bleb.org kirjoitti 9.11.2011 23:41:

It's not hostility, I thought we were having a forthright discussion amongst friends.

Although looking at some of the messages outside of this thread, there seemed to be a them/us separation; aiming ire at Ferenc for pointing out that sending 57,000 emails was a fairly Bad Idea (whether for server load, netiquette or plain common sense). Not his fault no-one thought about it before, is it?

-- Andrew Flegg | mailto:andrew@bleb.org -- http://www.bleb.org/On 09/11/2011 21:22 Michael Cronenworth wrote: andrew@bleb.org wrote:

Is there an easy way to delete the account? I don't think so. Some of these accounts are over 6 years old, and the user may have got rid of their 770 in the meantime.

There hasnever been an unfiltered email sent out, and to do so now would not be because it's the right thing to do, but because if a lack of foresight and planning of the votinng process.

That's why having a filter is sensible. If my "karma decays" idea had been implemented, a threshold would tell you not only that someone had been active but whether it had been recently.

Where's all this hostility coming from? Read all of my messages.

You've just pissed me off for today, thanks. I'm done with this thread.