Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

By advice of helping soul from IRC and Estell (thanks, man!), i'm sending my rant here: what the hell is happening with maemo.org forum?! Today, one moment i'm posting, and two hours later i see this:

[code]
You have been banned for the following
reason:

Estel

Date the ban will be lifted: Never[/code]

Someone went ape shit nuts there?! estell pointed me out to this link: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1293253&postcount=293 as reason for ban. i'm JCDentom quoted there, and all my posts got deleted too!!
What the hell is happening there? I got banned because some bitchy moron think i'm estell?!

Sorry for thone of this message bros, but i'm really pissed off!!

On pon 12 lis 2012 14:22:55 CET, Fvghgtfrde Fdesfggtfrdefgtfrde <blowthestate@yahoo.com> wrote:

> By advice of helping soul from IRC and Estell (thanks, man!), i'm
> sending my rant here: what the hell is happening with maemo.org forum?!
> Today, one moment i'm posting, and two hours later i see this:
>
> [code]
> You have been banned for the following
> reason:
>
> Estel
>
> Date the ban will be lifted: Never[/code]
>
> Someone went ape shit nuts there?! estell pointed me out to this link:
> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1293253&postcount=293 as reason for
> ban. i'm JCDentom quoted there, and all my posts got deleted too!! What
> the hell is happening there? I got banned because some bitchy moron
> think i'm estell?!
>
> Sorry for thone of this message bros, but i'm really pissed off!!
>

Sorry "bro", I laughed like hell, while reading this.

Then, I have cried a little, as it seems, that maemo just hit the bottom. And drilled half a mile of mud.

Seriously though, even during wildest dream, the Most Bersekerish Council Hater (tm) wouldn't imagine something like that. Really.

Let me re-conclude this - we have started banning users and deleting their contribution to maemo.org, just because Emperor Palpa... Ivgalvez doesn't like his nick? Seriously?

Guys, I hope you have remembered, to also check wiki? Maybe there is some input from him, that must be deleted too? Or, maybe you should also delete all wiki articles I've written, or vandalise ones where I have ever added something?

Then, and only then, (as in post quoted in link by JC), "Witchhunt" will be complete.

Congratulations. Now going to reconvalescence from Obsessive Facepalm Syndrome(tm).

/Estel

Ps.

I have asked peterleinchen to post small annoucement in my "black aluminum body replacement" thread.

He agreed, but now I'm not sure if he should do it. Will he also be banned (and his hundreds of posts deleted indiscriminately), just because of this?

Thanks in advance, our wanna-be Dictators. Be vigillant!

/Estel

On pon 12 lis 2012 14:22:55 CET, Fvghgtfrde Fdesfggtfrdefgtfrde <blowthestate@yahoo.com> wrote:

> By advice of helping soul from IRC and Estell (thanks, man!), i'm
> sending my rant here: what the hell is happening with maemo.org forum?!
> Today, one moment i'm posting, and two hours later i see this:
>
> [code]
> You have been banned for the following
> reason:
>
> Estel
>
> Date the ban will be lifted: Never[/code]
>
> Someone went ape shit nuts there?! estell pointed me out to this link:
> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1293253&postcount=293 as reason for
> ban. i'm JCDentom quoted there, and all my posts got deleted too!! What
> the hell is happening there? I got banned because some bitchy moron
> think i'm estell?!
>
> Sorry for thone of this message bros, but i'm really pissed off!!
>

On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 05:22 -0800, Fvghgtfrde Fdesfggtfrdefgtfrde wrote:
> I got banned because some bitchy moron think i'm estell?!

The attitude and wording shown in your email might provide enough reason
to justify that decision now, even if it was initially wrong?
Being pissed off is no sufficient reason to miss basic manners.

andre

--
Andre Klapper | Bugmaster
http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/

Estel,

Get a grip. You used to be cool, you made contributions and helped
people out. Now you are just being an absolute arse and ruining
everything for everybody.

Please, I beg you, go outside and take a long walk and consider the way
you behave and the correlation between your attitude and the way that
people treat you. Right now you are coming across as a very angry, very
unhappy person who perhaps needs to work a lot on himself before he is
ready to work with a community.

Regards,

vi_


On 12/11/2012 13:42, twilight312@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Ps.
>
> I have asked *peterleinchen *to post small annoucement in my "black
> aluminum body replacement" thread.
>
> He agreed, but now I'm not sure if he should do it. Will he also be
> banned (and his hundreds of posts deleted indiscriminately), just
> because of this?
>
> Thanks in advance, our wanna-be Dictators. Be vigillant!
>
> /Estel
>
> On pon 12 lis 2012 14:22:55 CET, Fvghgtfrde Fdesfggtfrdefgtfrde
> <blowthestate@yahoo.com <mailto:blowthestate@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> > By advice of helping soul from IRC and Estell (thanks, man!), i'm
> > sending my rant here: what the hell is happening with maemo.org forum?!
> > Today, one moment i'm posting, and two hours later i see this:
> >
> > [code]
> > You have been banned for the following
> > reason:
> >
> > Estel
> >
> > Date the ban will be lifted: Never[/code]
> >
> > Someone went ape shit nuts there?! estell pointed me out to this link:
> > http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1293253&postcount=293 as reason
> for
> > ban. i'm JCDentom quoted there, and all my posts got deleted too!! What
> > the hell is happening there? I got banned because some bitchy moron
> > think i'm estell?!
> >
> > Sorry for thone of this message bros, but i'm really pissed off!!
> >
>
>
>

On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 14:42 +0100, twilight312@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks in advance, our wanna-be Dictators. Be vigillant!

Could somebody please consider banning Estel from this mailing list?
I'm getting tired of wasting time reading useless postings.

Thanks for considering,
andre
--
Andre Klapper | Bugmaster
http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/

Stop playing with community man. Here's the proof:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7gWTNeCMAAyhVX.png


On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:33 AM, twilight312@gmail.com <
twilight312@gmail.com> wrote:

> **
>
> On pon 12 lis 2012 14:22:55 CET, Fvghgtfrde Fdesfggtfrdefgtfrde <
> blowthestate@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > By advice of helping soul from IRC and Estell (thanks, man!), i'm
> > sending my rant here: what the hell is happening with maemo.org forum?!
> > Today, one moment i'm posting, and two hours later i see this:
> >
> > [code]
> > You have been banned for the following
> > reason:
> >
> > Estel
> >
> > Date the ban will be lifted: Never[/code]
> >
> > Someone went ape shit nuts there?! estell pointed me out to this link:
> > http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1293253&postcount=293 as reason
> for
> > ban. i'm JCDentom quoted there, and all my posts got deleted too!! What
> > the hell is happening there? I got banned because some bitchy moron
> > think i'm estell?!
> >
> > Sorry for thone of this message bros, but i'm really pissed off!!
> >
>
> Sorry "bro", I laughed like hell, while reading this.
>
> Then, I have cried a little, as it seems, that maemo just hit the bottom.
> And drilled half a mile of mud.
>
> Seriously though, even during wildest dream, the Most Bersekerish Council
> Hater (tm) wouldn't imagine something like that. Really.
>
> Let me re-conclude this - we have started banning users and deleting their
> contribution to maemo.org, just because Emperor Palpa... Ivgalvez doesn't
> like his nick? Seriously?
>
> Guys, I hope you have remembered, to also check wiki? Maybe there is some
> input from him, that must be deleted too? Or, maybe you should also delete
> all wiki articles I've written, or vandalise ones where I have ever added
> something?
>
> Then, and only then, (as in post quoted in link by JC), "Witchhunt" will
> be complete.
>
> Congratulations. Now going to reconvalescence from Obsessive Facepalm
> Syndrome(tm).
>
> /Estel
>
>
>
>

On pon 12 lis 2012 14:47:38 CET, Andre Klapper <andre_klapper@gmx.net> wrote:

> The attitude and wording shown in your email might provide enough reason
> to justify that decision now, even if it was initially wrong?
> Being pissed off is no sufficient reason to miss basic manners.
>
> andre
>
> --

While I also doesn't like his tone, lets be serious here. You would be extremely happy, if your account, PM's, and all posts would disappear, just because maemo.org is overgoing "hostile takeover" by so-called Community Representatives?

And this part, especially:
> The attitude and wording shown in your email might provide enough reason
> to justify that decision now, even if it was initially wrong?

I hope, that you're not talking serious. Here, in Poland, this was way of thinking, that Communist dictatorship presented for 50 years, and I'm not eager to see it again, anywhere.

Let's ban everyone, and delete everything, just in case. Those, who will react with respect and love for new Dictatorship, will be proven worthy. Others? It's their fault, after all, they reaction *after* is enough to justify moderation abuse *before*.
---

No matter of his inappropriate wording, he should be - first of all - excused by people responsible.

Also, I can hardly imagine, how ivgalvez can stay in Board and Council without burning to red (through pink and violet) from shame.

But, considering low morals of most people being Maemo "rulers" now, he won't have any problem with this, probably... We already had Chair being glue to chair, despite numerous fails, and overall catastrophical results of anything, that he touched. I don't expect Ivan to present more ammount of personal honour, sadly.

Now, feel free to ban me permanently from maemo.org, for writing the above. If this is how this community looks now - with losers appointed to TMO moderators, rogue IRC chanops, hopeless Board that is too "high" to communicate with Community without Public Relation Department, and marionette Council - I don't want to be a part of this anymore.

After all, it's only 50 days to zero-hour (unless Nokia save the day, and decide to pay longer). Only one hope, now, is in Maemo's FOSS spirit, taking shelter somewhere else, due to work of really dedicated people. Sure, maemo.org domain is lost to "hostile takeover" by compromitted (and compromised) Foundation, but fortunatelly, it's not the thing, that matters most.

I'm really sure, that Maemo's spirit will be preserved in other, more friendly place.

/Estel

On pon 12 lis 2012 14:58:00 CET, Reggie Suplido <reggie@internettablettalk.com> wrote:

> Stop playing with community man. Here's the proof:
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7gWTNeCMAAyhVX.png

Laughable. Why you have masked rest of IP? Show it.

Those two first numbers are IP range of (one of) largest polish network providers. Actually, why not - ban the whole, when you've started to break rules of your own board, banning 3/4 of some insignificant country is nothing special.

I'm pretty sure, that you know it already - this is basic knowledge about IP ranges for any serious admin. If you not, you shouldn't touch managing any Board, by a long stick.

/Estel

On Nov 12, 2012 4:09 PM, "twilight312@gmail.com" <twilight312@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> On pon 12 lis 2012 14:58:00 CET, Reggie Suplido <
reggie@internettablettalk.com> wrote:
>
> > Stop playing with community man. Here's the proof:
> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7gWTNeCMAAyhVX.png
>
> Laughable. Why you have masked rest of IP? Show it.
>
> Those two first numbers are IP range of (one of) largest polish network
providers. Actually, why not - ban the whole, when you've started to break
rules of your own board, banning 3/4 of some insignificant country is
nothing special.
>
> I'm pretty sure, that you know it already - this is basic knowledge about
IP ranges for any serious admin. If you not, you shouldn't touch managing
any Board, by a long stick.
>
> /Estel
>
>

Look at the title at the top of the table. It's clear those are the results
of an exact IP search.

>

--
Regards,
Mohammad Abu-Garbeyyeh