Re: Fw: Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

Re: Fw: Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

Cosimo Kroll
Karma: 618
2012-11-12 21:33 UTC
Just had to clarify:

Estel did not leave council on his own purpose. He was politely asked to
leave because he ordered parts for his private CNC machine via councils
.org mail-address without asking the rest of the council.


A standard troll strategy is to twist the reality just a little bit so it
fits into their distorted reality.


Another strategy is name-called. Trying to focus the attention around other
people by naming them again and again. They do it to cover their own flaws
and to let the "enemies" appear to be a group of evil people who just sit
there the whole day and think about gaining power and surpressing
individuals.


lol



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Von meinem Nokia N950 gesendet



twilight312@gmail.com schrieb am 12.11.12 21:49:
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---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ----------
From: "twilight312@gmail.com" <twilight312@gmail.com>
To: Mohammad Abu-Garbeyyeh <mohammad7410@gmail.com>
Cc:
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:35:18 +0100
Subject: Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!
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On pon 12 lis 2012 15:12:14 CET, Mohammad Abu-Garbeyyeh <
mohammad7410@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 12, 2012 4:09 PM, "twilight312@gmail.com" <twilight312@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On pon 12 lis 2012 14:58:00 CET, Reggie Suplido <
> reggie@internettablettalk.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Stop playing with community man. Here's the proof:
> > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7gWTNeCMAAyhVX.png
> >
> > Laughable. Why you have masked rest of IP? Show it.
> >
> > Those two first numbers are IP range of (one of) largest polish network
> providers. Actually, why not - ban the whole, when you've started to
> break rules of your own board, banning 3/4 of some insignificant country
> is nothing special.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure, that you know it already - this is basic knowledge
> > about
> IP ranges for any serious admin. If you not, you shouldn't touch managing
> any Board, by a long stick.
> >
> > /Estel
> >
> >
>
> Look at the title at the top of the table. It's clear those are the
> results of an exact IP search.

Good catch, haven't noticed this.

Still, it doesn't change anything in merit - Reggie banned him, because he
is behind same provider's NAT than me (instead of same country - sic! - if
it would be IP range).

What is funniest thing here, is that I have created ONE account, where I
signed it as "/Estel", just to contact moderators, and to deny woody's
false (on purpose) claims, that I have disappeared, to scam people's money
on Black Alu body replacement.

Reggie know it, as I have contacted him (through mail to Texrat) explaining
case. After that, I haven't created any accounts, to not break rules - I
have even asked *peterleinchen* to post something in my name.
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Now, let's be honest out here, guys, Reggie screwed it like hell, becoming
a little maniacal, and banning someone "for me". I know, that TMO was
always a sad joke - powered by propertiary, closed source engine, with
content *not* licensed on Free-compliant license, owned by private person,
one all-powerfull admin, not even obliged to give forum content to new
Foundation. We all know, that this should *never* be a way for maintaining
official forum board for maemo.org, and ITT should either remain different,
private thing, or be bought completely.

But, what happened now, is out of line even for such badly managed, chaotic
thing like TMO. Really, do we wan't to be a part of project, where people
get banned, just because random forum admin lost his nervees for a while,
and Board member (*ivgalvez*) doesn't like someone's name?
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JCDenton is prime example of how badly maemo "Community" deteriorated and
decomposed. It doesn't matter, at all what Reggie "though" about him. The
problem is, that no matter if JC would be my brother, neighbor, lover,
slave, or totally unknown guy, no one had right to ban him.

What happened here today, is effect of MONTHS of lowering standards in
Community management. This was main reason why I have left Council - no one
cared for low standards presented by Woody then, and this is resulting
beer,, that we're drinking now.

/Estel


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Re: Fw: Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

Piotr Jawidzyk
Karma: 946
2012-11-12 23:44 UTC
On pon 12 lis 2012 22:33:14 CET, Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Just had to clarify:
>
> Estel did not leave council on his own purpose. He was politely asked to
> leave because he ordered parts for his private CNC machine via councils
> .org mail-address without asking the rest of the council.
> lol

What?! Where this bullshit comes from?

/Estel
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Re: Fw: Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

Cosimo Kroll
Karma: 618
2012-11-13 05:31 UTC
And here we can see anther troll strategy:
Question facts that were already discussed.

I suggest everyone to read this thread, where we can beautifully see estels
real character and why he really applied for council.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86290&page=16

One should always ask: who acts in favor of the community and who acts in
pure egoism.



2012/11/13 twilight312@gmail.com <twilight312@gmail.com>

> **
>
> On pon 12 lis 2012 22:33:14 CET, Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Just had to clarify:
> >
> > Estel did not leave council on his own purpose. He was politely asked to
> > leave because he ordered parts for his private CNC machine via councils
> > .org mail-address without asking the rest of the council.
> > lol
>
> What?! Where this bullshit comes from?
>
> /Estel
>
>
>
>

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Re: Fw: Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

Marcin Mielniczuk
Karma: 564
2012-11-13 15:05 UTC
2012/11/13 Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah@googlemail.com>

> And here we can see anther troll strategy:
> Question facts that were already discussed.
>
> I suggest everyone to read this thread, where we can beautifully see
> estels real character and why he really applied for council.
> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86290&page=16
>
> One should always ask: who acts in favor of the community and who acts in
> pure egoism.


Sorry, but I don't see anything special in the thread. And thing about
being able to catch up with the current stuff after absence is a good point.

--
Marcin




> 2012/11/13 twilight312@gmail.com <twilight312@gmail.com>
>
>> **
>>
>> On pon 12 lis 2012 22:33:14 CET, Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Just had to clarify:
>> >
>> > Estel did not leave council on his own purpose. He was politely asked
>> to
>> > leave because he ordered parts for his private CNC machine via councils
>> > .org mail-address without asking the rest of the council.
>> > lol
>>
>> What?! Where this bullshit comes from?
>>
>> /Estel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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